Dad is not rude for laughing, it’s an emotional response when you’re uncomfortable.
@srsmedic8285
5 ай бұрын
I do the same thing.. got in trouble often in the Army
@crazycuttee
5 ай бұрын
Sadly not enough people understand that. Under extreme emotional distress and traumatic circumstances reactions will come in the craziest of ways that will never always fully be considered normal. The hysteria is real and if everyone understood that the extra backlash and mistreatment would be slim to none
@sofiyork5881
5 ай бұрын
happened to me once in a very serious situation where I alternatively ugly cried and laughed like a maniac. it was horrible
@Patton0911
5 ай бұрын
I do that as well.
@ashvice_advicewithash
5 ай бұрын
Literally, he’s nervous and distraught and as per the content even of this episode even confirmed: HES STILL IN SHOCK! He’s overwhelmed and doesn’t even know where to start. This poor poor man. What a tragedy. Evil for sure lived in that house I hope they go as far as spiritual cleanse that house.
@sophiabright8371
6 ай бұрын
Those nervous giggles are a sign of trauma. This is very very sad.
@doctorposting
6 ай бұрын
yea poor guy’s voice was shaking the whole time🙁🙁
@denisejivoin3821
6 ай бұрын
I said the exact same thing when I was listening to his story and he was giggling through the details I knew it was because of trauma😥
@Jane-uz6vu
6 ай бұрын
Who wouldn't, have trauma,after this. So sad, cause he loved all involved..
@beccaboo3040
6 ай бұрын
I thought the same 😭💙
@CrimsonFountainofYou
5 ай бұрын
My friend and I call them our diffusive laugh, when we're talking about stressful things. I noticed them too
@genrod-gal7265
5 ай бұрын
Giggling is a coping mechanism. Give the man grace for losing his entire family because it will never be the same
@X3vivi
4 ай бұрын
@@donnasearch1 he might be more overwhelmed by the attention. it must be hard getting on a podcast like this and sharing your story ):
@Beantown85
4 ай бұрын
@@donnasearch1stfu u don’t know how u would act in this situation, which is crazy. You’re a coward for judging another man going through this
@devindouzstuff_8250
4 ай бұрын
@donnasearch1 you've never laughed because you were nervous? It's a very normal anxiety response
@jessicaolson490
4 ай бұрын
@@donnasearch1 That's your own perception though. Not reality. It's called a nervous laugh for a reason. And hearing one is uncomfortable because it's not a happy laugh. And instinctively your brain registers that only somebody under a lot of duress makes that sound. It's the same as when you hear someone wailing with despair, it makes you really uncomfortable on an instinctual level.
@jessicaolson490
4 ай бұрын
@@devindouzstuff_8250 Yes as a nurse I'd like to agree with your statement. The sound of his voice the tremors, the nervous laughs. Those all point to him having really strong emotional response to recounting the story. A traumatic response. It's one step before crying while you're talking, you can hear the constriction in his throat from it closing up.
@kuro.hitsuji
2 ай бұрын
If he doesn't laugh, he'd probably cry. Leave dad alone. He's processing grief and trauma.
@burntblonde2925
2 жыл бұрын
The 10 year old running for help and getting hit, tears for this child, such a brave boy
@lena.lk9817
Жыл бұрын
@@user-zy9yg2eu5t Dude...
@dyliver
Жыл бұрын
@@user-zy9yg2eu5t buster
@maxfisher719
Жыл бұрын
You still come on at 4 p.m Dr. Phil?
@Ad-Lo
Жыл бұрын
Against his own brothers, even!
@danerichards7280
11 ай бұрын
Very brave god 🙏 bless them
@crystalgilliam3006
5 ай бұрын
I have been judged for having our now 15 year old removed from our home because she tried to kill the other kids multiple times and attacked me as well. She has issues and I will not put the other kids at risk.
@clearaswater4424
5 ай бұрын
My daughter is a schizophrenic who uses drugs and has other issues. I hate that she couldn't be in our life. But I have e other children who she has tried to hurt but I had to hover over her for her not to make it happen. I couldn't protect her friends and boyfriends. It was so exhausting.
@msbeecee1
5 ай бұрын
U made the right choice. U have to protect the innocent children at all costs to the perpetrator. U cannot live in fear of violence in ur own home. The perpetrator will have to receive help from others who arent in harm's way. Some things have to be black & white.
@NeuroJ12
5 ай бұрын
I don’t judge you for that. People who judge you have likely never been in your shoes. I respect that you had to make a decision to protect the other kids even though I’m sure that was very hard. I wish your family the best.
@beetothebop123
5 ай бұрын
Wish you & your family the best, including your 15 yo. You did what you had to do, hopefully she gets the help that she needs
@AnnArmstrong-gr7ng
5 ай бұрын
Wise ❤🎉
@gracestoebner584
4 ай бұрын
As someone who has walked into a crime scene and has similar trauma I can attest to the nervous laughter it is 1000% a trauma response.
@user-gj1pq5zm4l
4 ай бұрын
I used to think that way. I said God gave us free will and that’s why bad things happen to good people. I no longer believe in an interventionist God who steps in e.g. let this 10 year old live. There is no such thing as an old man in the sky who answers prayers or intervenes in situations.
@jameybobamey7343
4 ай бұрын
Correct God is not an old man
@robingoudy3960
10 күн бұрын
Prayers for you
@songoftheblackunicorn666
5 ай бұрын
You can NEVER let your 16 year old NEAR your wife or your ten year old again.
@gretalukoseviciute2058
4 ай бұрын
you can NEVER let you 16 year old NEAR anyone alone.. He should always be with other two three people.
@songoftheblackunicorn666
4 ай бұрын
@@gretalukoseviciute2058 I agree
@iTube2muchallday
4 ай бұрын
Protect the other 3 kids. They need.counseling & love too. I feel for this family
@VinOnline
4 ай бұрын
What about the 13 yo too, they both conspired.
@songoftheblackunicorn666
4 ай бұрын
@@VinOnline the thirteen year old is going to be an extremely iffy situation as well and it will depend on how Juvy goes and how rehabilitation goes. If there is no extreme reformation of character and contrition you are correct
@jleezy612
Жыл бұрын
As a mother of two sons, I don't think I could forgive my son for trying to murder me or my other child. I couldn't look at his face again.
@dsmith7684
8 ай бұрын
My kids could take *me* out if they wanted to, but I wouldn't be able to get past them hurting my other babies
@a.r.8954
7 ай бұрын
Please don't say that. If you gave birth to sons, they do not have the right to kill you. Your life matters.
@suzziezhills
7 ай бұрын
Nope! Done.
@ksieli1985
6 ай бұрын
I cannot imagine with either of my boys this happening. But if either of them did this, I'd be emotionally done. I don't know if there would be love in my heart for him anymore, and would just live as if that child was dead. And greive as if they were gone, because I could never look at him again.
@ange3193
6 ай бұрын
@@dsmith7684it’s the fact he hurt the other children that is worse
@sarahpayne1552
5 ай бұрын
My brother is a sociopath, and it is terrifying. I've cut off all contact.
@pinkpugginz
5 ай бұрын
my stepdad is one too. he ruined 3 generations of our family with abuse and trauma
@sarahpayne1552
5 ай бұрын
@pinkpugginz The saying goes, a little abuse, goes a long ways . Really 10 fold, if that inflicted by a family member. It is really one of the hardest things to go through. Not just physically, but mentally as well. I will be hoping you the best of luck ❤️❤️❤️ Much Love
@KatherineRoseArt
5 ай бұрын
My little bro was diagnosed psychopath and later schizoaffective. He put my family through hell. We finally cut off contact.
@amarillo856
5 ай бұрын
@@KatherineRoseArtthat's strange considering psychopathy is not a diagnosis in the DSM. But maybe you mean he's anti social with psychopathic features
@chinwenduchinwe586
5 ай бұрын
@@pinkpugginz Hmmm....it is advisable for family's of today to go back as far as possible to see what took place in the family tree; both father and mother side. This is happening so so often???
@shahwilloughby4603
Ай бұрын
My brother (aged 23yrs) was killed walking home from a party nearly 30 years ago (he was hit by a freight train). All the way through his funeral I laughed like a mad man. I laughed that much that my Nana tapped me on the shoulder and told me "you need to stop laughing .. you're upsetting everyone". Laughing is some people's coping mechanism.
@carolejackson8357
Ай бұрын
Yes, it's common to laugh as a grief response. Laughter has a similar physiology as crying.
@ninelives56
Ай бұрын
It's like hysteria. Sometimes, we cry when things are funny, and sometimes we laugh when things are sad.
@codirennke1109
2 күн бұрын
I reflect on my beloved grandma's funeral and what I see if an uncanny valley stepford wife version of myself smiling and greeting everyone and providing tissues for other people and fussing over little things like the flowers or rearranging picture collages of her. When it came time for people to speak, I couldnt do it. I hadnt processed any of it at that point and was dissociated. I remember looking to my left and my little sister was crying and I thought "I should comfort her. I should be crying too. Why cant I cry right now? Why cant I comfort my little sister like a damn human being right now." But it was like i was watching from a window in the back of my mind and had no control of my body. I have nightmares about my grandma all the time that she is lonely and sad and mad at me and that I've abandoned her. She was the strongest woman in my life. She was the female role model I adored and strived to be like and loved dearly. And in my heart of hearts I know that she knows my heart. But man the freaking GUILT and shame and such complicated feelings around grief ALREADY... but ESP if you have an "odd" or dissociative response or even what some may deem as "inappropriate "... idk it just makes it that much more difficult to process and understand. I'm sorry I've rambled. I've had a bit to drink on an especially emotional night and your comment tugged at my heart and sent my mind back in time a bit. Hoping you are well and sending love.
@arusu1806
4 ай бұрын
The 10 year old boy’s last memory was the sight of his mother struggling for her life and family. He refused to give up fighting for his life because he knew he had to fight to get back to his mom to protect her. His story literally brought me to tears. I’m so proud of him fighting for his life for his mom and for his family.
@audreyquinn73
4 ай бұрын
I'm crying, too. I had to pause the video when the father was talking about how his 10 years old son was recovering, miraculously. It's beyond horrible to imagine what the mother and her youngest son experienced. I think if people do not respond emotionally after hearing a story like this, then there is something wrong with them. People have become so desensitised to other people's trauma. People nowadays are quick to name their own victimhood, but seem to lack that same empathy for others. I will pray for this man and his family's recovery.
@Ben_2040
Ай бұрын
Why should a 10 year old be expected to protect their mum and not think about themselves? It should always be the other way around. The parent chose to bring the child into a cruel world, so they should deal with every consequence. No child should be expected to do anything ever. I am god.
@jaymesonbell8040
24 күн бұрын
@@Ben_2040that's not what he meant
@Shay-yg7nm
2 жыл бұрын
Lots of judgement on this thread. This man's 2 sons tried to kill their brother and mother. Its a miracle this father can even speak on the air like this.
@truckerstruckingwithtrucks522
2 жыл бұрын
@L Cam I chuckle when I'm about to cry to keep myself from crying. I think it's common
@ariadneschild8460
2 жыл бұрын
@L Cam I have inappropriate reactions to extreme stress, I can't imagine how I'd react to my children trying to kill their parent.
@BellaLu26
2 жыл бұрын
I know. ppl just wanna go on about "THERE WERE DEFINITELY SIGNS!" easy enough to say when it isn't your kids that tried to kill your wife
@sarahalderman3126
Жыл бұрын
Yeah this family is like the picture of f’d up. They must all be severely mentally ill and the father must be delusional if he didn’t see this coming from MILES away.
@intensepassion3382
Жыл бұрын
I'm so confused by this word "judgement" people make judgements, they do it in courtrooms, deciding who to date or marry. The sons were in the absolute wrong, that's a judgement.
@mayhem7455
7 ай бұрын
How do i hold my family together? You don't. You take your wife, and surviving children and you move on with them. You write off the other two and forget about them. It's the only way because your wife and son will never trust them again, and neither should you.
@ashleighclaudio5209
6 ай бұрын
Straight up
@carolapostolos8929
6 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@KAnderson2020
6 ай бұрын
Move. Don't leave a forwarding address and get a really good security system.
@ec9833
6 ай бұрын
Nononono…he’s asking as someone bonded to his children. Emotionally, deeply bonded to the entire family he helped build and rear and dreamt of and planned for and worked for. Do any of you have deep emotional attachments to anyone? Anyone you’d never emotionally imagine being capable of detaching from, discarding, for any reason? I don’t think he’s asking for heartless, tangible steps to take. His shoulders and his heart and his soul are completely weighted in twenty different ways his mind, body and soul never prepared for, never imagined and were never organically built to work through and come out the other side well adjusted. He was on a daddy daughter day when this happened. Good chance he was deeply in love with every single human in that unit. I mean, gawd…his own flesh and blood, pieces of his heart living outside of his body attempted to murder their family. You can’t imagine? What do you say to someone coming back from war, having horrific images and experiences they’re carrying in their mind, tearing at their souls? Move on? Get a security system?
@user-wy4hu7sz1t
6 ай бұрын
@@ec9833I'm sorry, but you're wrong. God put you and your spouse together and join you as 1 person. When you marry your spouse you are connected, you are literally 1 person. When that other person is hurt it's the same as you Being hurt period that is your permanent relationship in this life. Your children, you rear them they grow up they move on, they marry they have their own children. That's the way it is meant to be your your spouse is your permanent relationship, that's how God made that and yes, of course, we love our children. We would do anything for our children, but if your child is psychotic and crazy it is not I repeat, it is not helpful for you to cover for them and baby them. The best thing you can do is put them in a mental institution where they can get some help. And if he was a wise man, he would not let his wife go anywhere near those psychos until they are behind a wall of some sort, so she cannot be harmedand make sure that they are ready to prepare to beg her forgiveness, because there is absolutely no reason to attack her unless there was something. Quite evil going on that home that perhaps the husband didn't know. And yes Of course, he still loves his children because those are his children. But that doesn't mean that they're not psychos, that doesn't mean. That they are Safe to go out into the world
@ronhall5395
4 ай бұрын
As a young adult, my parents were housing a niece who was having behavioral problems. I was staying there at night a few days a week due to a summer job. My mother discovered my cousins journal that she kept. It was very detailed in plans to kill my parents in their sleep, steal the car and credit cards and escape. One note was evident, " plans on hold until my cousin moves back to his house". Pretty obvious she knew should could not take down three of us, even if asleep. I was working a 11 pm to 10 am shift. My schedule alternated from days, to nights. So she did not know my schedule. Mom shipped her off back to her parents.
@shahwilloughby4603
Ай бұрын
Bloody hell .. that's VERY scary 😮
@dania688
Ай бұрын
Awful .. What was her motivation? Car and money?
@BFku36
29 күн бұрын
Are her parents still alive?! 😳
@Ben-zr4ho
22 күн бұрын
@@dania688 Nah... Would that be enough "motivation" for anyone to do that? It takes crazy. Even if you're a sociopath who doesn't care who they kill wouldn't do that because they know they would get caught right away.
@shaystizzy
21 күн бұрын
@Ben-zr4ho while I agree that most people wouldn't, not everyone who kills has rational thoughts. People have been murdered for less.
@marciaeovino3584
2 ай бұрын
I know people who start laughing when the tears start falling. It’s just a coping mechanism. It’s uncontrollable
@kingofrivia1248
2 жыл бұрын
At 16, and 13 for that matter, they know exactly what they are doing, and as a father i would definitely press all charges i legally can.
@shawnlove4502
Жыл бұрын
Easier said than done. Especially if you love your children
@isay207
Жыл бұрын
Responsibility at 16 he may kill someone else
@BMarie774
Жыл бұрын
@@shawnlove4502 No it isn’t. It’s incredibly easy if it’s my child. My child, if they did this, something is drastically wrong. They need a penitentiary. They need accountability and mental health help while being safe and being kept away from citizens for others safety. I don’t want my kid murdering someone and being put to death or being in prison for life, and some family literally losing someone so precious to them because of a human I created, and especially if they could’ve been held accountable for an early lesser extreme crime.
@shawnlove4502
Жыл бұрын
@@BMarie774 I disagree. But we also aren't in that position to truly know how we'd feel.🤷♀️
@lukedevlin5948
Жыл бұрын
@@BMarie774easy for you to say when your not in the situation
@jiangpkpful
2 жыл бұрын
A son who risked his own life to protect his mom. The universe wouldn't let him die.
@SIGSEGV1337
Жыл бұрын
He's a part of the universe, it's God who wouldn't let him die
@sarahalderman3126
Жыл бұрын
The “universe”? 😂🤣 You mean the same universe that has inflicted every mass disaster? The same one that murders babies still in the womb? Let me guess you think guns kill people too?
@jiangpkpful
Жыл бұрын
@@sarahalderman3126 I actually don't think that LOL
@ChrissyBeTalking
Жыл бұрын
Yes. The universe would let him die and God would have too. He’s blessed, but death does not discern the innocent or the chivalrous from other people.
@paxiong4502
Жыл бұрын
This little boy is a hero.
@Black_pearl_adrift
4 ай бұрын
Started crying when he said his wife was repeating his name and number over and over again while his child was in another hospital both in emergency states 😢 I can’t even imagine.
@jeanab0919
3 ай бұрын
And when his son said, “Dad”
@NateMike-bcjit
2 ай бұрын
Me i cried when i heard tha too @jeanab0919
@SecurityMum
5 ай бұрын
Dad's in "Survival" mode. Holding it together for his other kids. But he's almost at the crash point. You can hear it in his voice. I hope Counselling was provided for all of them, because the impact is going to be devastating. I hope the family can find a way to navigate through this, and there's no blame to the parents if they cut contact with the 15 & 13 yo's. This is a horrific situation and I wish them the best....and keep fighting 8yo!
@dustinkenney5803
7 ай бұрын
The son who tried to save his Mom had God watching over him.
@jypsyjewels2854
6 ай бұрын
God should have told him to duck
@juice2620
6 ай бұрын
@@jypsyjewels2854 Right why didn't God just prevent this whole thing?
@heather4089
6 ай бұрын
@@juice2620God isn’t there to solve peoples problems, this is like when a parent solves his kids issues, they will grow up spoiled like brats and won’t mature in adult stage. God can’t be around solving the problems you get yourself into. Learn the lesson and grow up. NEXT LESSON!!
@juice2620
6 ай бұрын
@@heather4089 You missed my point. There is no god. That's the only reasonable explanation.
@lightsumo-ct7lr
6 ай бұрын
God is exist people never understand this God gives us our freedom and brain is exist two ways good and bad and ur choose and God tells us the result of it and tells what rights for us and others called human rights and when we needs God to fix our problems for us just pary to God he will do it for us!
@limitbreakplusultra7551
6 ай бұрын
This poor guy should not feel bad AT ALL about the numbness and disassociation he's experiencing. There's no "correct response" in a case where your family members almost murder other family members.
@LottieOfWales
6 ай бұрын
It sounds like he’s still in shock ❤
@kellidinit3725
6 ай бұрын
It’s an internal coping mechanism.
@Dontrolling
6 ай бұрын
Especially the ones you raised! I was shocked at his contempt talking about all of this.
@britbrat1127
6 ай бұрын
@@DontrollingBe lucky it’s not you and stop talking sht; we are snared by the words of our mouth and what we say can happen to us tenfold. You have NO clue what it’s like or what you’d do. How dare you judge this father? Edit: spelling
@jesspavlichenko5745
6 ай бұрын
@Donielle360 you're shocked he feels contempt for the people who nearly killed his son?
@karencreighton7939
Ай бұрын
When I went to the hospital after my daughter was in a car accident, I went completely numb. I can understand why this caller is talking the way he is. I was in shock for two months afterwards. Something like this changes you forever. Hearts out to his family.
@GailPage-xr1ki
15 күн бұрын
I lost my voice after hearing shocking news about my Son. Could only whisper
@samaralavon
2 ай бұрын
His wife will never feel safe in her home. Even if she doesn't press charges, the state will. She will never trust being alone with her sons.
@heatherlowe7330
20 күн бұрын
And she has plenty of reason not to! Honestly, they should be locked away and throw out the key! These kids are old enough to know exactly what they were doing!!!
@user-bs3ye3yv4u
6 ай бұрын
Don't bring them home. Ever.
@TurdOfParadise
5 ай бұрын
They were willing to kill to get out of there. They were willing to go to prison to escape what was going on in that house. Use your heads people.
@raynaemurray
5 ай бұрын
It would be nice if the world were black and white. Cause/effect. I could see your theory if they hadn’t involved the youngest brother. That they did leads me to wonder if this is psychosis of one (maybe the older) influencing the younger.
@kathycarpenter1561
5 ай бұрын
@@TurdOfParadiseyou haven’t a clue
@TurdOfParadise
5 ай бұрын
@@raynaemurray Or the religious cult the parents forced the children into....?
@kimberlymayes4061
5 ай бұрын
@@kathycarpenter1561 exactly
@mysticquetzal87
2 жыл бұрын
his 16 yo son is not depressed, he’s a sociopath 😣 what a tragedy
@jennifert2953
2 жыл бұрын
Agree. This isn’t a generational thing. This is flat out mental Illness. Things like this have been happening since the beginning of time.
@firefly9838
2 жыл бұрын
There had to be something to trigger this behavior from a 16 year old. Doesn’t make it right, but some outside influence or something had to nudge this behavior.
@Tristum1970
2 жыл бұрын
Try psychopath.
@kiethmergard
2 жыл бұрын
@@firefly9838 Not necessarily. I have sociopathic tendencies and I had a few times I almost hurt my family. Literally nothing except mental illness triggered it.
@nachosmac5812
2 жыл бұрын
Look up their church and you’ll see why the boys had resentment
@lysan4878
4 ай бұрын
My Baptist preacher cousin’s adopted 17 year old daughter(they adopted her at 2 wks old) stabbed him and his wife over 20 times each trying to kill them. They were in ICU for weeks and almost died but they refused to press charges. Nothing happened to her, they didn’t even put her in a mental hospital. Now 12 years later she’s an EMT and hasn’t been in trouble since and her parents act like nothing ever happened. It’s a little crazy.
@vaska1999
4 ай бұрын
I don't understand why it was up to the victims of an attempted murder to press charges. Surely that should be the job of the police and the courts, regardless of the parents'/victims' wishes.
@WoolandFlax
3 ай бұрын
That doesn't sound true at all. It's not up to you to press charges lol. If you try to kill one it is the state vs you, not victim vs you. Ain't nobody going free for attempted murder just because the victim didn't want to press charges. Bunch of liars up in these comments.
@bridgetcurry9578
3 ай бұрын
@@WoolandFlax It isn't about whether or not the victim can press charges. It's how cooperative they are with the office and police. Even if the DA subpoenas them to testify they can give minimal answers, say I don't recall, tell the truth but frame it in a way that looks better for the defense. A DA is most likely not going to pursue charges when the victim(s) is completely unwilling to help them.
@Mamasitamasbebe
3 ай бұрын
It depends on what city and state these assaults and murders take place because law enforcement and courts have different laws and procedures. I think people like Gypsy Rose got away with it because of being in Missouri. The Menendez Bros and Scott Peterson in California don’t get away with murder. This would never happen in California nor Texas because of the dedication of law enforcement/police and the court systems. The only way is if it goes to supreme court, then it’s federal.
@davidmolina7543
3 ай бұрын
You think?!
@gardinerillustration
4 ай бұрын
He sounds like he’s still in shock. What a tragedy. So glad his wife and young son survived! 👏 Peace and healing to his family!
@bilbobaggins4403
8 ай бұрын
I worked with kids who were sociopaths. It's scary.
@theynot4u
6 ай бұрын
We were foster parents to a child sociopath. Diagnosed. I still have PTSD from it.
@mish375
6 ай бұрын
@@theynot4u Wow. That sounds terrifying. Sociopaths are scary people and I never want to have to be trapped in a room with one. They're the closest to natural evil you can get.
@bilbobaggins4403
6 ай бұрын
@theynot4u as you know it partially comes frim extreme neglect when they were very little.
@theynot4u
6 ай бұрын
@bilbobaggins4403 I appreciate you acknowledging partially. I'm not a mental health expert, but I've done some research. We had almost 30 foster children, and we could see a genetic predisposition in some kids based on our experience with parents. Also, while some parents were just awful, the kids were great. There seems to be a myriad of factors that can influence mental health.
@ivettesantana4319
6 ай бұрын
@@bilbobaggins4403 not in my case. My son was angry and as soon as he could walk, he grabbed sticks to hit me as soon as I turned my back. I worked at nights to take care of him during the day. He was so loved by my mom and me.
@daniellelsogb
5 ай бұрын
The 16yo isn't depressed. He's dissociated. Unless the mom is abusive, he needs SERIOUS mental health evaluations and so does the 13yo.
@bebop2523
5 ай бұрын
The mom was definitely abusive. Both parents were. I found a news article about this case. The family was part of a cult called Grace Valley Christian Center that has a track record of encouraging horrific child abuse. If you just google them you’ll see stories of survivors who escaped the cult and talk about how horrible it is. The teens who attacked the mom beat her badly enough to injure her and then called 911 to report what they just did, then they gave the phone to their mom so she could describe her injuries, and she could get the right medical attention. It sounds less like attempted murder, and more like they were so desperate to get out of that house that the only thing they could come up with was committing a crime bad enough to get arrested, they thought prison would be better than staying there.
@daniellelsogb
5 ай бұрын
@@bebop2523 interesting. Ill have to look further into it
@emma_luce_0623
5 ай бұрын
@bebop2523 Where is the evidence for this? All I can find are a couple of random websites (stating the exact same story) and Yelp reviews. And also why did the brothers almost kill their 10 year old little brother if all they wanted to do was leave? That doesn't make sense.
@roxillatastic
5 ай бұрын
@@bebop2523what an insane thing to say. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
@bebop2523
5 ай бұрын
@@roxillatastic it’s “insane” that I read multiple news sources about this case that all say the same thing, that they were part of Grace Valley Christian Center? It’s “insane” that there are numerous former members who say Grace Valley Christian Center is a cult that encourages horrific abuse? If ALL of these sources are wrong then please enlighten me!
@kbarrett628
4 ай бұрын
I'm bawling.. Thank goodness for daddy daughter days. That little girl could have been there and being so little, she may not have survived. My heart is broken for this dad and mom.
@hannav6989
2 ай бұрын
Me too. My heart aches thinking about this whole family and everybody who suffers from mental illness. I wish I could just wrap my arms around people who are suffering and somehow make it better.. this is just heartbreaking 😭
@mrs.whatley5596
2 ай бұрын
This is terrible. Those kids are not depressed. Just Evil
@ThatIdk-cv1it
2 ай бұрын
You don't know what's actually going on. So stop assuming. They aren't being defended but it is very possible that they had some kind of manic episode or something considering they calmed down after talking to their mom after 45 minutes
@tintinismybelgian
Ай бұрын
The family may have been part of the GVCC cult, and the murder attempt happened as a result of mistreatment.
@susanpage8315
23 күн бұрын
@@tintinismybelgian That church definitely looks suspicious.
@mentalfloss100
5 күн бұрын
You’re so right !!!!!!! We forget evil in this modern left society 😢😢😢😢😢😢
@SuperDamon10
6 ай бұрын
This is an unimaginable event. No one should be passing any judgment upon this man on how he should handle this. Just pray for him.
@catherinegrace2366
6 ай бұрын
People are so weird. They spend their time on social media saying the most socially unacceptable things. What a way to spend a life.
@RunningGrass-we7tm
5 ай бұрын
Oh yes we can, laughing about it is big red flag 🚩
@saftis5304
5 ай бұрын
@@RunningGrass-we7tm No, actually it's not. Laughing is a normal reaction to trauma and sorrow, just like crying is. Please read up on this.
@rocb1319
5 ай бұрын
@@RunningGrass-we7tm it doesn’t sound like you’ve been educated or informed on trauma responses… I’m a nurse so yes I have . Laughing is more common than you think when someone is nervous or extremely uncomfortable
@bebop2523
5 ай бұрын
Can we pass judgment because he’s part of horrific cult that encourage his child abuse? Can we pass judgment because instead of going to the police he went to his church? I found the news articles about this case. The family was part of a cult called Grace Valley Christian Center, just google them and you’ll see horrific stories from survivors who escaped. After the teenagers beat their mom, they are the ones who called 911 themselves and force their mom to talk to the 911 operator, they were trying to get arrested and go to prison because they believed it was their only way to escape from that house. That is such a huge 🚩 that the ONLY person who actually called the cops in this situation was the perpetrator, the father called the church first and was trying to only deal with ATTEMPTED MURDER within the church. Though after reading the article, I have my doubts as to whether the kids really wanted to kill their mom or if they were just trying to beat her bad enough that they would get arrested and removed from the house. Reading the news report on it and learning the background of the cult sheds different light on this call.
@actuallyterry
2 жыл бұрын
I hope the 10 year old and the wife heal completely.
@unnamedchannel1237
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was the callers mom
@stormchaser3115
6 ай бұрын
Duh
@theolamarshall-bernard
6 ай бұрын
In Jesus' name, Amen.
@beastshawnee
6 ай бұрын
That’s not really possible. What they need to do is move forward! Keep on going on. But with counseling.
@sheridanvance7426
5 ай бұрын
❤
@pamchandler1867
4 ай бұрын
IT IS DEVASTATING WHEN SOMEONE YOU LOVE HURTS SOMEONE YOU LOVE
@gracemarkell6318
Ай бұрын
I started to cry uncontrollably when the dad said his son is able to walk and talk after a level 1 brain injury. The moms prayers for more time during the incident were heard loud and clear ❤
@seraphimburrell7137
21 күн бұрын
Me too 😭
@rosethompson3028
13 күн бұрын
Yes God heard her. God is good
@Beaglesfly
5 күн бұрын
I guess the 10k kids that die of starvation every day, in complete agony, must not say the "right" prayers, huh?
@seraphimburrell7137
4 күн бұрын
It's God's sovereignty. Not about saying or word of faithing. @@Beaglesfly
@PifsGifts
5 ай бұрын
I had to ask my 18 year old daughter to leave when I found text messages about how she wanted us (mom, dad and sister) dead. She had previously (age 15) been hospitalized for threatening to kill her sister. She had been seeing a psychologist and was on some medication that helped. As soon as she turned 18 she stopped seing the dr and stopped taking her medication. Then all hell broke out! It's been almost 3 years now. Some people tell me I'm awful and others understand. I wasn't going to be on the news and wondering why I didn't do something when I saw the signs.
@jdeux3677
5 ай бұрын
Right
@texastea5686
4 ай бұрын
Do you know where she's at now? You had every right to make her leave
@sassysandie2865
4 ай бұрын
Those meds are awful. Good for you.
@duvessa2003
4 ай бұрын
Feel free to drop the clueless individuals telling you you are horrible. You don’t need that.
@jessicaolson490
4 ай бұрын
@@sassysandie2865 sometimes a few bad side effects are worth it if the result of not taking it is being homicidal... 😐
@corinneblackburn4043
6 ай бұрын
My daughter's coma score was 0-3 with her TBI. She was in a coma for 14 days not expected to live. She was sixteen. Now she is 28 years old and is married and is working as a care giver to seniors. She now has a paralyzed hand and walks with palsy. She was a passenger in a car that rolled. She got thrown out and hit a tree and a tree branch impaled her. She can't have children due to the risk of blood clots again. I told you this for encouragement because your son is young he has a better chance to recover a lot back ❤❤❤
@TeacherMom80
5 ай бұрын
I am sorry about what happened to your daughter. I am thankful shes been given a second chance to live.
@blaszizzz
4 ай бұрын
Wow, I'm so sorry for what has happened to your family, glad she recovered ❤. I work on a neurosurgical/major trauma ward and sadly most of our patients with such a GCS score don't make it out. Your daughter truly is a survivor, lots of love to you ❤
@im_twinzy6033
4 ай бұрын
did she wear a seatbelt?
@corinneblackburn4043
4 ай бұрын
@im_twinzy6033 No she was sitting on her boyfriend's lap. It was a five passenger SUV with only 5 seat belts. She blungers herself for this enough. It was more sinister than that. The girls that were driving duck taped her roll bar so she had nothing to hang on to when they purposely wanted to see her fly around the back seat. It was a prank on my daughter that went horribly wrong.
@corinneblackburn4043
4 ай бұрын
@@blaszizzzthank you for your kind comment. I'm so thankful everyday that I still have her. She is defendantly a Survivor
@carrie8285
5 ай бұрын
Was there an update?? Man… this was hard to listen to. He went through so much and I felt so overwhelmed on his behalf. But I want to know how they’re doing 2 years later.
@Username_993
2 ай бұрын
I haven't been able to find much in terms of an update. The family's last name is Van Der Veen from Elverta, California. The 10 year old is Benji, but I wasn't able to find anything about the sons who committed this crime (probably because of their ages). You can find a few things on Google using this info, but not much.
@carrie8285
2 ай бұрын
@@Username_993 thank you so much!!
@SA-vm4rz
Ай бұрын
I found the parents Aaron and Brianna on FB there isn't much but grandma Judy has updated pics of her grand kids and Benji and the mom look great all things considered
@carrie8285
Ай бұрын
@@SA-vm4rz thank you for this update!
@mr.13eefy
7 күн бұрын
California inmate search shows Joshua’s admission date as Sept 13, 2023. But that’s all the info besides his inmate number.
@kezzokav5905
4 ай бұрын
That's not depression. His older son is a psychopath. The 'depression' was an act to manipulate Dad.
@fundamonium
5 ай бұрын
People have no listening skills! He did not say his son did this due to depression, he said when he saw him last he saw a depressed person.
@semperfiyorkies6084
2 ай бұрын
But he’s a sociopath. He’s only depressed because he got caught.
@fundamonium
2 ай бұрын
@@semperfiyorkies6084 well exactly… he isn’t blaming depression for what his son did. That’s the only point I’m making. People are commenting that depression is no excuse or that that they have been depressed and they would never do that. So your point and mine are the same.
@semperfiyorkies6084
2 ай бұрын
@@fundamoniumI agree. The father should realize that though. They did a perfect dominant/submissive partnership in their attack. I don’t know if the younger brother is a sociopath but he should definitely be held accountable. I personally could never allow them into my life again. And if the man wants to keep his relationship with his wife he’s going to have to do that as well. I get he’s their father, but he’s also the father to the other 3.
@JackAceINC
Жыл бұрын
Having grown up in a similar situation, with an older brother that was EXTREMELY violent. Not your normal childhood fights, this was myself and other family members ending up I emergency rooms with SERIOUS injuries. The Police and Justice system did nothing except blame my parents. All we could do is try to protect each other until we were all old enough to move and hide. My parents did everything legally possible to keep us safe. Later in life my father told me he considering killing this brother and turning himself in immediately so that the rest of the family could live in peace. I'm sure glad that never happened because as an adult I have had a chance to spend real time with my family and especially my father. We all have children now and its nice that everyone gets to know each other in a loving, happy and functioning way. The one brother ended up in prison for a sentence nearly 30 years, and I can say that this is the best time of my family's life. Everyone has prospered mental and financially and it's amazing how one bad apple can ruin the bunch.
@laurapeterson12
Жыл бұрын
I was more fortunate, we were able to get my step-brother out when he was 14 vs keeping him there due to a counselor that told my step-Dad to just let him go and live with his mother (who was so unstable, he got custody of 3 kids in the '70s). All our lives were so much better after that. Glad you have good relationships now.
@perfectlymprfct
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. May God bless you and your family. My family is similar.
@talyahr3302
11 ай бұрын
I hope no one else was hurt in order for him to get that 30 year sentence. Thankful there's peace for you now.
@Purplelemon5033
9 ай бұрын
That’s a horrible situation to grow up in. A friend’s daughter who’s a teen regularly violently attacks her family.She’s strangled her hamsters to death and killed several cats.Her mum is very supportive and has her in counselling etc. homeschools, took her to horse therapy but she attacked the horses. Mums convinced she must have autism or something but no dr can find anything wrong her. Her Mum thinks that she’s just masking in therapy as she acts normal there.I’m no expert but this kid is fully in control of her behaviour when she wants to be ,ie in a crowded clothes shop when she’s being treated to what she wants. It wouldn’t surprise me if she went onto do something else
@proudatheist2042
9 ай бұрын
@@Purplelemon5033that's not just autism. It sounds like she may have the Dark Tetrad personality: Sadism, psychopathy, narcissism, machiavellianism. Autism symptoms do not include killing animals.
@duvessa2003
4 ай бұрын
How can that poor kid (the little brother) ever trust anyone again???
@Deborah-so8mv
2 ай бұрын
Therapy, therapy, therapy.
@helledee6584
4 ай бұрын
My sister is a psychopath and it’s been a horrendous journey my whole life. 60 years of hell.😢
@SamStone1964
6 күн бұрын
My brother has been trying to destroy me for 60 years. I understand.
@dcoleman4444
Жыл бұрын
This poor man not only almost lost his wife and son, he has now lost his 2 sons to prison. And he has to now deal with the aftermath of all of this. Wow. Be grateful for each moment. You're life can change in an instant. Sending prayers for this family.
@purplelove3666
11 ай бұрын
Would you rather have those two sons still live with him then?
@k8eekatt
6 ай бұрын
You are correct, there will never be trust or confidence in their home again. So much lost in one deranged day. I join in your prayers for this father and family.
@rykersmimi
5 ай бұрын
No, he lost 2 of his boys to their own actions. Going to prison is a consequence of those said actions.
@user-ux7uh6un3p
5 ай бұрын
Prison? What a joke. They’ll be out to do it again in six months with nothing on their record because they’re minors. The only change is they’ll have a team of liberal lawyers explaining how it’s the victims’ fault and they’ll have court-appointed psychobabble seasons weekly to make them worse!
@bebop2523
5 ай бұрын
Look up the news articles about this case. This man was part of a cult that encouraged horrific child abuse. When he found out about the attack, instead of calling 911 he called the cult leader, that was his response to ATTEMPTED MURDER, to try to brush it under the rug and have the cult deal with it internally, rather than involve the cops. The only person who called 911 in this whole situation was the 16-year-old perpetrator. He called and had them speak to his mom to get her medical treatment after he had beat her. From reading the article, it sounds like they were just trying to beat their mother and brother badly enough that they would be removed from the home, they were so desperate to get out of the cult that they thought prison was a better option. How horrible for the innocent 10-year-old boy.
@jenniferi.4385
2 жыл бұрын
We need an update on this family. I hope they're healing well.
@northtxhomes.
2 жыл бұрын
yes!
@MarksTournaments
Жыл бұрын
We don't like in a fairy tail, that family is f'ed
@ltlwlwl5057
Жыл бұрын
@@MarksTournamentsUnfortunately, you used incorrect words in your sentence. The sentence doesn't make sense. If you were educated in USA.... We are all F'ed.
@traceyleeherrera5247
Жыл бұрын
@@MarksTournamentsof course you are right but hope springs eternal, we all just wish the best for them
@Hobadee
11 ай бұрын
I very specifically cannot cite my sources, but they are actually doing fairly well. (As well as anyone who went through that can.)
@maryperrysmith5815
Ай бұрын
Dr John he’s wearing toooo many hats that’s hell. My heart breaks for this man husband dad truck driver
@user-kz8mq8co8i
10 күн бұрын
Spot on !!!!!!! I’m a retired Psychologist at 79 yo F and Dr Milton Erickson was my mentor along with my husband Dr Adrian Williams. I’m Patricia and I am impressed with your entire structured rant of instructions. I am impressed because you are so correct. Thank you, John.
@arga400
2 жыл бұрын
It's hard for me to feel sorry for the 16 year old after he almost killed his 10 year old brother He is depressed because he is going to jail not because he has a chemical imbalance in the brain
@nachosmac5812
2 жыл бұрын
If you look closer at the “church” they attend then the story changes big time
@arga400
2 жыл бұрын
@@nachosmac5812 I read into their church, no it does not
@nachosmac5812
2 жыл бұрын
@@arga400 ah, so you saw all the yelp reviews and other articles about how members have to sign a lifelong covenant starting at age 10? And you saw how the members are encouraged to marry each other and nobody from any other “church”?? And also how any financial decisions have to first be run through the pastor?
@COINsimp2024
2 жыл бұрын
@@nachosmac5812 this has nothing to do with being a psychopathic. Anyone can walk away from any religion at any time.
@nachosmac5812
2 жыл бұрын
@@COINsimp2024 a kid doesn’t know that. Or perhaps a kid isn’t ALLOWED to.. maybe by a certain *mother* - and home schooled.. maybe they were *forced* into a certain lifestyle 🤔
@mrdeathbyzombies3704
5 ай бұрын
I had to watch my mom get abused almost everyday as a young boy. I felt like a failure because I was too weak to protect her. I can't even imagine wanting to hurt her. I can't understand this evil
@realone7488
5 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@natashariley4315
5 ай бұрын
Lifting you in prayer brother
@constancemccoy6931
5 ай бұрын
Praying for you. You were just a child and God knows that.❤
@mrdeathbyzombies3704
4 ай бұрын
@@constancemccoy6931 I've been trying really hard to get better. My anger has caused me to go to jail and it has caused me to be involuntarily committed. She's still with him after all of these years. I told her I would pay for her apartment and I offered my mom to move in with me, but she still stays with him. I don't understand it. The bastard hasn't touched her in a long time because he knows that she has to give me a phone call and I am right there, ready. I want my momma to be safe, but she says she loves him. I don't get it. If a man beats on a woman that he says he loves, then he is scum in my eyes. She's practically a maid for him. And he still talks down to her. I was there for Easter, to celebrate. She cooked a huge amount of food for Easter dinner. After the dinner, he screamed at her to clean up the kitchen. I stood up and I yelled, "What if she doesn't wtf are you gonna do???!!!" I was ready for another fight. But then she pulled me to the garage and told me I shouldn't disrespect him. It makes me so mad. I'd never treat my wife or girlfriend or anyone like how my step-dad treats her. I'm so confused. I just want everyone to be safe and happy. All I'm good for is my muscle. If I can't use my strength to protect my momma, then what good am I as a man?
@trina1962
4 ай бұрын
Oh sweet human, I am so sorry you had to hold all that pain and trauma everyday. You sound as if you chose a better path despite the horrid examples you were shown daily!
@lisajeter9511
4 ай бұрын
Dad you need to listen to everything John just said to you. He hit the nail on the head. What was so profound “Grief needs a witness”!
@Jenp68
Ай бұрын
What a brave husband and dad to tell this tragic story in a public forum. He deserves all of our empathy and prayers, not small minded comments. I hope they are healing.
@elizabethdazell4426
6 ай бұрын
I hope they are getting therapy for the little girl. No one is going to get out of this without big scars.
@mromero911
6 ай бұрын
Boy
@petuniabloom
6 ай бұрын
Also the girl @@mromero911
@bridgetmonro8485
6 ай бұрын
@@mromero911 There is also a little girl. She was at work with the Dad at the time. I'm assuming the commenter meant it's a given the son who was attacked is being looked after, but that the other child will have trauma even though she wasn't there.
@sandyweir6375
5 ай бұрын
Did they do a drug test? What kind of drugs these two children were taking? I pray all the members of this family get all the help they need. They all will need it now, and in the future. The nervous laughter of the dad, he his hanging on by a thread. I pray for them. 🌹🌹
@bebop2523
5 ай бұрын
The family is in a cult. I found the original article about this case. A cult called Grace Valley Christian Center. Survivors who escaped the cult have talked about the horrific child abuse. They all need therapies specifically meant deprogram cult members. I’m sure the abusive cult had a lot to do with the reasons why the kids attack their mom
@Hooperjz78
6 ай бұрын
"Grief demands a witness" that is such a statement.... extremely powerful and relatable.
@nicolenebaard2302
10 күн бұрын
Let the man talk…as much as he wants and pray for him ❤
@stephanieoni7804
6 күн бұрын
When he said his son was getting discharge...i cried. Omgggggg no feeding tube. Lord, thank you.
@kimberlyisome1154
5 ай бұрын
When he talked about his son it took me back to last year when my son was hit by a car. Pupils fixed and dilated. Coma scale score 1. Devastating I thought we were going to lose him. Beyond grateful that he not only survived but is back almost 100%.
@justin555666
2 жыл бұрын
Such a heartbreaking story. I'm not even a father, but the "Hey Dad" had me in tears and smiling ear to ear. Hope the best for this family!
@benstanfill363
2 жыл бұрын
I'm at work just listening and almost started crying there. Holy wow.
@HeritageHighlandAcres
2 жыл бұрын
The second he said “hey dad” I started to cry.
@AmandaC123
7 ай бұрын
Me too I got happy chills and laughed with joy
@Aslan_Fulgore
6 ай бұрын
Exactly this man.
@sheridanvance7426
5 ай бұрын
❤
@KrustySnax
6 ай бұрын
My cousin tried to kill my grandma. Came into her room at night, held her mouth open, and proceeded to pour bleach down her throat. Then tried to strangle her. Thankfully they weren’t home alone. She lived, but they let him live there still. I’ve never gone back.
@user-xr2lv4ll6j
6 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ.
@coriemmett1363
4 ай бұрын
😮😢
@momfromnj911
3 ай бұрын
No one pressed charges???
@Precious4uBaby
3 ай бұрын
😲
@sjm9876
2 ай бұрын
Dear Lord
@robingoudy3960
10 күн бұрын
Breaks my heart. Praying they will ALL be healed physically and mentally
@ivettesantana4319
6 ай бұрын
My son tried to kill me after many years of abusing me as he is bipolar. It was my 2 year old that saved him and woke him from that slicing and cutting me trance. At the time my mom was alive and my sister wanted me to take him back. I guess my life is worthless to them because they beat me up themselves when I was young. This was an easy NO. I finally could live without looking over my shoulder but it breaks my heart because it was my son and not a stranger. He will be back in October from prison but not here and i live in constant fear still of what is to come. No more contact with him for the sake of my kids and I. I feel for this family and mom because I completely know what you are going through.
@ivettesantana4319
6 ай бұрын
at least this father made the right decision to call in and get support from the dr. I have to handle it all myself and now am broken.
@Lauren-vd4qe
6 ай бұрын
does he know where you currently live?
@deborahevans1052
6 ай бұрын
Maybe you could take the kids and move get a different name so u can live free. Not looking over your shoulder or being surprised with a attack.
@lillauren21
6 ай бұрын
I have bipolar disorder and have only hurt myself. Theres something beneath the surface you don’t know about and your son has to figure that out. Once we grow up it’s up to us to address our issues. Please move away and protect yourself.
@debbie4329
5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your honesty. ❤
@heathermoore5240
2 жыл бұрын
If it was truly premeditated, what that 16 year old is experiencing is not depression, at least related to his actions. He is full of regret because his life will be forever marred and he’s just realizing that; he doesn’t regret trying to kill that woman. Absolutely tragic. I pray for those people, every single one of them.
@jakevote8978
2 жыл бұрын
You’re such a good doctor thanks for informing everyone
@sonofjay817
2 жыл бұрын
the fact that he didn't follow through and called 911 suggests some level of regret.
@edithtierce8209
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@sds6303
Жыл бұрын
He has no remorse, shame, or guilt. The son is a psychopath. He is only sorry he got caught, he isn’t sorry at all for what he did. He isn’t a sociopath, but a psychopath. There are clear differences between the two of them. Psychopaths plan things out, sociopaths are impulsive.
@sarahalderman3126
Жыл бұрын
@@sds6303 only he didn’t get “caught” he confessed and sought out help. No this is 100% the fault of primarily the parents fault, in particular the father.
@musicinme2010
3 ай бұрын
Never let them in your lives again. Take care of your wife and 10 year old.
@kimmcclellan5973
17 күн бұрын
Praise the Lord... In your wife's despair she knew that God was her light...
@melaniebrinson2365
Ай бұрын
I could forgive my children for attacking me. I could never forgive for attacking their sibling.
@lisajeter9511
Ай бұрын
I’m sure Forgiveness would be the easy part!But I know trusting them ever again would be very difficult!!
@cindyjemutai9812
13 күн бұрын
Yea he's probably in a really weird place because I wouldn't trust those kids again to live with them. I'm not a parent but I'd consider disowning them but I don't think that would be easy either
@stephaniecarleton3117
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think this guy should be calling a radio show. He needs a private counselor and a good attorney.
@ohshesspicy1406
7 ай бұрын
He already has. Probably just wants an opinion from someone he respects.
@arfriedman4577
7 ай бұрын
If he had an attorney, they would have told him 5alk to no person about this.
@kimkuczynski6443
6 ай бұрын
I think that you're judgmental and should cram it.
@rebelks88
6 ай бұрын
@@arfriedman4577would a 16 year old get a jury trial? That would be the main reason to not talk about it. It was already in the press anyways.
@arfriedman4577
6 ай бұрын
@@rebelks88 why are you asking about a jury trial? I believe young people have had jury trials. I only went by this podcast. I didn't look to see if it was in the news.
@chloechantal5017
2 жыл бұрын
This is a catastrophic tragedy. That poor family, ESPECIALLY the poor younger son who knew it was right to help but got hit 🥺 that poor baby. I pray that he is restored completely. The brain is an amazing thing, especially at such a young age, you never know how well they will heal.
@nachosmac5812
2 жыл бұрын
Hope they do heal.. but whole family needs to leave Grace Valley Community Center. So many people have been scarred by the demands of the pastor and any child who grows up in it will no doubt have issues
@rachelgooden9981
2 жыл бұрын
@@nachosmac5812 wow really?
@nachosmac5812
2 жыл бұрын
@@rachelgooden9981 yes 100%…. Look into it
@katelynbrown98
2 жыл бұрын
@@nachosmac5812 what state are they in? What's the gist of their scandal?
@Bossinator1976
2 жыл бұрын
@@nachosmac5812 true though
@jordinometry1589
Ай бұрын
Can you just feel the light in his voice when he speaks of his son’s recovery ❤
@linak7155
3 ай бұрын
Dr. D. The list you offered this man were off the charts a must!! Such foresight. It covered the mental, spiritual, and physical areas perfectly❤ I'm learning!
@ronirony2122
Жыл бұрын
I remember the day before the first day of school, My oldest brother was drunk or on drugs but he had a knife and said he wanted to kill us. My mom and my three older brothers ran to our bedroom and locked ourselves in there until police arrived. I remember I was only 9 years old being soo scared. I remember praying to God that he would make him stop. I can't imagine how afraid they were.
@texastea5686
Ай бұрын
Omg what happened to your brother , where is he now? I'm so sorry you went thru that
@fundamonium
5 ай бұрын
Wow I started crying when he said the wife and child are being discharged!!! Unbelievable.
@fundamonium
3 ай бұрын
@@suzannecefalu6694 what are you on about? I was crying because I was relieved they were discharged from the hospital. Get a grip
@Britttt_007
3 ай бұрын
You can literally hear how much he’s still in shock. The straight forward- nervous laughter - not knowing how to feel. Whew.
@lauren3835
3 ай бұрын
I have the same trauma response. Especially when I have to talk about my traumatic experiences out loud. I giggle and laugh and make jokes about things that should never be joked about, and that I find FAR from funny...I just don't know any other way to deal. I hope this family finds peace and healing.
@alleykeosheyan4779
2 жыл бұрын
Dr. John: we need a "where are they now" for this family and a few others!
@DaisyBerk2
2 жыл бұрын
An attack that lasted that long…. Brutal. Not safe to be in society.
@boxelder9147
2 жыл бұрын
Its not!! Very dangerous world we live in
@catcoffee7958
Жыл бұрын
Am guessing they have mental illness it a family. Thing
@jkendeljohnson4464
4 ай бұрын
The Davis Vanguard did a 3 part investigation of this family's church which revealed severe abuse of its members, including severe public shaming and telling teenagers they're filled with demons, in addition to alleged sexual abuse. John, did you follow up with this father weeks and months afterward as you asked for in this interview? Did you interview him on subsequent episodes? Do you know what happened to the 16- and 13-year-old sons? I've found absolutely no news reports online beyond the initial news reports immediately after the attack.
@bgal7110
4 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I'm with you Kendel. John is irresponsible and unprofessional if he hasn't followed up on this story. It screams of cult abuse and instead of just going for ratings, Dr. D. needs to clear up this report.
@dollyhood6549
4 ай бұрын
Got a link ?
@AnthoniCarmen
4 ай бұрын
@@dollyhood6549 its called google babe. took me about 3 minutes to find this stuff. (I had no idea I was just curious about the case)
@NikkiSchumacherOfficial
4 ай бұрын
Many of us were abused and never tried to murder anyone.
@jkendeljohnson4464
4 ай бұрын
@@NikkiSchumacherOfficial No one can dispute that. And if you're 16 and 13, it's a serious cry for help, and we as fellow humans can do better than just and only throwing the young person in prison.
@bri220
Ай бұрын
Your 10 year old will struggle with the betrayal of you defending his attackers. Choices have consequences.
@bambiwest1391
2 жыл бұрын
Aaron - if you read these comments please know strangers are praying for you, your wife and all of your kids. It’s going to be tough, but you can rebuild a life for your family- John D is right, it won’t be the same, but with the Lord’s help you all can do it. You’re in my prayers
@nachosmac5812
2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@neya292
2 жыл бұрын
Amen!!
@rachelgooden9981
2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@zeal4god402
2 жыл бұрын
AMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
@angelescastaneda8118
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@truckingwithtobee
2 жыл бұрын
How awful. I feel so horrible for this man. Thank goodness his daughter was with him that day💕
@sarahalderman3126
Жыл бұрын
Yes I feel bad for everyone except the father. He is the cause of it all!
@metaphordreams378
Жыл бұрын
@@sarahalderman3126 How?
@sarahalderman3126
Жыл бұрын
@@metaphordreams378 as the father and pastor this man created and maintained a home so sick that his own son’s plotted MURDER against their own mother. He was clearly not paying ANY attention to his boy’s or his wife. That kind of anger and resentment can be felt by everyone, if they’re paying attention. However the main reason is that the only plausible reason these boy’s could have done this, to have this anger or resentment towards their mother the father must have been feeding them lies soaked in blame. The father was obviously blaming everything on his wife, just as he glossed over in his call here. Nope sorry by the father is responsible for the discipline and general mood for the home. Clearly he failed in that role and thus put the mother in a position she wasn’t capable of full filing.
@rentfree2377
Жыл бұрын
@@sarahalderman3126 you really shouldn’t make assumptions about that man if you don’t know anything. Who are you to say that this is the fathers fault. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@sarahalderman3126
Жыл бұрын
@@rentfree2377 its called listening hun.
@shanimalia
9 күн бұрын
Just thinking about what I would say after getting this phone call would be overwhelming. Everything John said was absolutely perfect! I am so glad, it brought me to tears actually, that his wife and son have made a full recovery. I couldn’t imagine trying to navigate everyday life while in this position and I will continue to pray for their family. I hope their family heals.
@CharlanePowell
23 күн бұрын
"Your life before is over." I just sat here and cried for dad and the family so much now!!! I pray that you and your family are able to heal from this 🙏
@Helthurian
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wild. At 16 you know what you're doing. I feel for the guy, younger son and mom.
@Kevintendo
2 жыл бұрын
Very true :/
@PrairieDawnC
2 жыл бұрын
Unless he had a psychotic break.
@Helthurian
2 жыл бұрын
@@PrairieDawnC In which case that'd have to be proven, which can be hard depending on the condition.
@RG-hf4et
2 жыл бұрын
@@PrairieDawnC Two sons having a psychotic break? No.....
@alexwyler4570
2 жыл бұрын
Some teenagers are all emotions and the thinking brain is not firing at all sadly, those are the teenagers that drop out and get into trouble and dangerous situations.
@jayrezvani3821
2 жыл бұрын
One thing to watch out for with the youngest son, he mentioned the doctors noted that he was eating a lot, which could be a sign of brain damage. If you have lesions in the satiety center of your brain, specifically the ventromedial hypothalamic nucleus (VMN), which is the part of your brain that responds to leptin (the hormone that regulates "fullness"), he might start developing an obesity problem. Something to look out for.
@jkell2888
Жыл бұрын
I did not know this!! Good for future reference!
@camellia8625
Жыл бұрын
I would personally be more worried about more subtle cognitive issues that could affect his ability to study or work.
@jaydegelder2964
Жыл бұрын
Jay, You sound like a doctor.
@ltlwlwl5057
Жыл бұрын
Good Information. Thank you for sharing!
@psychshell4644
Жыл бұрын
True. Hopefully, neurology & psych will follow-up and monitor.
@alygraehair
Ай бұрын
I’m crying my eyes out for this family. Thank God mom and this little angel are okay. ❤❤❤ This is unbelievably heartbreaking, but again, thank God they are here, and this father is beautiful. Wishing safety and deep healing for all.
@user-cc5wt9pd8w
2 ай бұрын
Im 68 & when I was 6 my 15 year old brother was sent out west to live. When l was 22 my mother told my why. Mom & Dad thought he would hurt me & my 3 year old sister. As life went on in his older years he mentioned that he was clinically diagnosed as a sociopath
@arfriedman4577
7 ай бұрын
If he has an attorney, they should have told him not to talk to anyone about this.
@jasl9987
6 ай бұрын
He can say whatever he wants. The state is prosecuting them not him.
@arfriedman4577
6 ай бұрын
@jasl9987 what he says can influence jurors
@KAnderson2020
6 ай бұрын
He had to talk to someone!
@arfriedman4577
6 ай бұрын
@@KAnderson2020 He could have asked for a private call.
@somexp12
6 ай бұрын
@arfriedman4577 And why should he be bothered about influencing jurors? Should he be worried about them recommending too high or too low a sentence? Should he even know at this point? I'm not sure it makes sense for him to be worrying about anything other than taking care of himself and the remaining members of his family. Then just do his due diligence and give the state whatever information he knows and let the chips fall where they may.
@SusanGoodman-bz2pw
8 ай бұрын
I have worked with incarcerated, kids and teens most of my career. It is very very very unusual for a happy, healthy, well addressed kid/kids to just snap. I hope for all involved that a thorough environmental and situational investigation is conducted and both boys need a thorough mental and physical health work up as well, normally when this sort of situation occurs, there is either an untold story or a latent health issue. That is the impetus for such a radical change in behavior. Often there are signs of individual or family trouble that go unnoticed or misinterpreted. My heart aches for everyone involved.
@xxluaxx6
7 ай бұрын
As a social worker my feelers were out here too. Obviously there's no excuse for what they did. But I want to know why those kids wanted to kill their mom and run away. Was she abusive? Were these two kids targeted? Happy healthy kids who love their parents don't usually just snap.
@nervotica7991
7 ай бұрын
I would SERIOUSLY question the son's friends. My alarm bells ring drug abuse...
@ParentingIsPlanning
7 ай бұрын
But what is causing this?
@evanorderyd3188
7 ай бұрын
Just what I think. Is this a blended family.? He dont say that his wife was the mother of the 13 and 16 years old boys.
@d.taylor3760
6 ай бұрын
Google cultish homeschooling--it is definitely real. There have been allegations of physical and child sexual abuse leveled against the strict "cult" of Grace Valley Christian Center (GVCC) in Davis just west of Sacramento--which some online articles indicate this family was a member of. I can't seem to find any mention of the subsequent trial or its outcome.
@elaineduncanson1474
12 күн бұрын
What a story! What a heartbreak for everyone. My life is very different but I gained some strategies for dealing with the mess I am facing. I appreciate Dr. John’s calm and compassionate assessment of a situation and the practical advice he gives.
@victoriaswift8822
Ай бұрын
I can’t imagine. I have two boys and a daughter. I love them all so much. I wouldn’t even be able to cope
@lynnebucher6537
2 жыл бұрын
My sister, who has been caretaker for her sick husband for decades, said she keeps her sanity by doing something good for her every day. Takes long walks, eats healthy, etc.
@andrearoman7999
2 жыл бұрын
Mental health is never seen outwards at times. Most of the time is underlying. Please don’t forget to talk with your kids, family and friends.
@Jane5720
2 жыл бұрын
She’s a caregiver he’s is a caretaker she gives he takes
@sarahalderman3126
Жыл бұрын
@@Jane5720 actually it goes both way’s. They both give in different ways and both take in different way’s.
@donnafontaine2799
Жыл бұрын
Your sister is amazing to be caring as long as she has God Bless this family 👪 sounds like she's doing well and keep finding her own outlets to feel peace....she is a special caring person!
@beer1403
6 ай бұрын
@@Jane5720u sound weird. Nothing wrong with taking care of a beloved person. U probably don’t have that.
@punkrockmetalqueen92
Жыл бұрын
I dated a man with a brain injury and all I can say is I would never wish it upon anybody, literally at times witnessing someone who's just a shell of themselves. Then random Outburst about things that don't make sense and things that are perseverated on and having the same fight over and over like a broken Loop, not to mention the memory loss and the personality changes. My ex said he literally had to write down the good memories and repeat them and focus on them for weeks to commit them to Memory . He broke my heart when he told me in an outburst he threw the notebook with our memories away . Seriously pray for this kid and their family.
@Roadmanting76
Ай бұрын
Full respect to this man for being strong enough to reach out for help, in his toughest moments. I couldnt imagine the pain hes been burdened with. Also, Well done Doc, let him release his emotions completely without fear. As well as knowing the best methods of approach straight off the bat.
@KennediFord
2 ай бұрын
When his 10y/o said *Hi Dad* 😭🙌🏽♥️
@TBIhope
2 жыл бұрын
That’s amazing. The Glasgow Coma Scale is actually 3-15, there are 3 categories (1-4 eye opening, 1-5 verbal response, 1-6 motor response), and anything below an 8 is a coma, 8-13 is minimally conscious, and 14-15 is normal enough). I know this because I was also in a coma (GCS of a dead body=3), but mine was from falling off a cliff. The fact I could recover at all is definitely a blessing from God, and because of neuroplasticity! I fell when I was 18, so my brain was still fairly plastic, and I imagine your son’s age definitely helped him recover, too! There’s more neuroplasticity in younger patients, and I think we’re both so thankful for that!
@lindakincaid4530
2 жыл бұрын
God was watching out for him.
@jones2277
2 жыл бұрын
wow, glad to hear of your recovery!
@jones2277
2 жыл бұрын
@@lindakincaid4530 then why did he get injured in the first place?
@sarahalderman3126
Жыл бұрын
@@jones2277 what? He was hit over the head with a baseball bat. What’s difficult to understand?
@blahblahblah4544
Жыл бұрын
I really hope nueroplasticity will take a serious turn in studies. I believe there's great potential for healing.
@chasa4347
2 жыл бұрын
I've been around this a couple of times in my life. When I lived in Wyoming, in a nearby town, Thermopolis, a young man snapped, killed everyone in his family except his dad. Now I live in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, and two young men did the same thing, they killed their parents, most of their siblings, left a sister and a baby behind. The older son was a leader, younger was a follower, just like Aaron's kids.
@megalopolis2015
2 жыл бұрын
That is chilling. The enemy really wants to take out families.
@jones2277
2 жыл бұрын
it's actually more common than a lot of people realize. at that age, young males have a lot of testosterone rushing in their veins, a skewed sense of logic, rage, a desire to prove themselves, and lack of empathy. it's a fragile and dangerous period. this is why the military specifically seeks them out for combat.
@mamat1213
2 жыл бұрын
@@jones2277 yes but something ELSE is happening in society for this to become more common…. Those developmental things have always been true and yet we haven’t had mass killings and family murder to this degree
@jones2277
2 жыл бұрын
@@mamat1213 the something else is that they're followers and copycats. they see one do it and the others will do it too. but think about this: gang violence, terrorist blocks, it's all the same thing. every culture has violent angry young men who are causing havoc. we're not unique in this regard. the only difference is we thought we were immune, but it's always been happening.
@lauraoergel6003
Жыл бұрын
Wtf is happening in oklahoma!?!
@rebeccagroves1096
Ай бұрын
Is this woman the mother of these children??
@maureenjossick429
Ай бұрын
“Grief demands a witness”….this has been so true-since the beginning of time. But I’d never heard this so simply put before.
@Jane_1994
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but there's no coming back from this level of desensitization to violence. People who do this kind of harm at this age, where you are old enough to work/consent, they do this again. Sorry, but he needs to be in a cage forever. He chose to do this for 45 minutes in a row. It is what it is.
@Naturefan354
2 жыл бұрын
Yes statistics agree with you
@righand
2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@trevnti
Жыл бұрын
@Femto that's objectively false, this type of behavior can be genetic (apx 2% of ppl are born psychopaths) and to have two sons do it can show a genetic component. It can also be external influences. Many times kids get idea from hanging out with the wrong ppl. really it's 50/50, also look into the church which also may be an issue (their particular church not all churches)
@rileylagerstrom9843
Жыл бұрын
@Femto prove he created this RIGHT NOW or don’t ever say something as stupid as that again.
@crazylatingirl94
Жыл бұрын
@overlordfemto7523 eventually people need to be held accountable for their own actions. this is clearly not a matter of poor parenting and I think having your kids trying to kill you/your spouse/their siblings is punishment enough.
@yvonnemclaughlin4324
2 жыл бұрын
Horrific situation for everyone involved. This is not a normal teen mad at mom situation. There are some deep underlying rage dynamics with this family’s relationships. I’m sure the father is going over and over what he could have done differently. I hope they all get professional help and guidance 💕
@sarahalderman3126
Жыл бұрын
The father needs to be removed from everyones life. His younger son needs to be protected from his influence permanently along with his wife! The father clearly encouraged (intentionally or not) violence within the home, along with resentment and hatred.
@catcoffee7958
Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's a mental illness run in the family
@DC-bp8sx
Жыл бұрын
They’re in what ex members termed an abusive cult and homeschool. We’ve seen this play out before, homeschool, cultish controlling church and sons trying to end their parents
@Nosteponsneksss
11 ай бұрын
One or both of the boys might be psychopathic, if not both of them one could have manipulated the other to take part in this plan. There is no cause for psychopathy and there is no cure.
@shannamcdonough9588
6 ай бұрын
@@DC-bp8sx is this a fact - they said CA 2 yrs ago - is there an update?
@zetataylor1550
2 ай бұрын
Is there an update.?Just watching this in 2024 and wondering what is happening now.
@user-zl3tq6bz6l
2 ай бұрын
I was wondering too, Google articles are from 2-3 years ago
@TheCountryCouponer
2 ай бұрын
Me too! And if this was her biological sons or a step mom for the 16 year old
@ETHAN_TALKS_FPL
13 күн бұрын
@TheCountryCouponer The caller kept referring to wife but never mentioned that she was the kids biological mother. (I know as much as you), but this is my assumption going off of this entire discussion)
@smjg783
5 ай бұрын
Hopefully the cult the parents are in will be investigated for child abuse.
@TripleBrimstone
5 ай бұрын
I was abused as a child. No fun man. I’m only 22. My father still acts like the victim. Mom doesn’t.
@Malibusunrise
5 ай бұрын
@@TripleBrimstonewe made it out ❤
@Malibusunrise
5 ай бұрын
Are you referring to their church or did I miss something lol
@kimberlymayes4061
5 ай бұрын
What cult?
@kimberlymayes4061
5 ай бұрын
@@TripleBrimstone I'm so sorry that happened to you 💔
@mmmfun77
Жыл бұрын
This is an act of psychopathy as far as I’m concerned. Shocking. That brave little boy. ❤ Those dangerous, murderous boys needs to be taken out of society . Depression? No . Psychopathy
@saltycat662
8 ай бұрын
Those kids need to be evaluated by professionals that are specialized in personality disorders. They're probably seeing regular therapists that are completely clueless. You're right, that is psychopathy, not depression. Those kids are a danger to everyone.
@Kekoa552
6 ай бұрын
I ain’t even gonna blame anyone because obviously we really don’t know much other than what we are hearing something going on with that kid needs to be addressed professionally
@colezy14
6 ай бұрын
Not 1 but 2 homocidal kids? I’d be asking questions
@evaollie9208
6 ай бұрын
Correct @mmmfun77
@junipersages
6 ай бұрын
@@saltycat662 Hi, I am a therapist and we are generally taught not to diagnose anyone with a personality disorder under the age of 18. Personality disorders are not hard to diagnose but take time to diagnose due to the fact that children are still developing well through adolescence; their "adult" personality is not usually in place until their mid-20s. We learn/grow/change through our lifespan but the "static" parts of our personality do not emerge until there is evidence of a pattern of behavior that persists after the early developmental stages end. Some therapists will diagnose before age 18 but it is not considered to be a good practice to do so. Harming someone is not indicative of a personality disorder with the exception of antisocial personality disorder (APD); the precursor diagnosis in childhood for this is conduct disorder (although not every child with conduct disorder goes on to develop APD in adulthood. Conduct disorder is not a personality disorder so a parent does not need to seek out a therapist who specializes in personality disorders. Hope this helps!
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