Beautiful crimp and great patterns from both chokes! Nice!
@saltcreekammo
9 күн бұрын
@@bobbyscott8024 shoots extremely well for what it is... Excited to see how it does on the birdies.
@RDReynoldsOutdoors
Ай бұрын
Heck yeah we need more content from the shop. Get to it
@tgunz64
4 күн бұрын
Nice video! Ordered 3 boxes of #7 triple curl and a couple boxes of your 2.5” 410 turkey loads. Can’t wait to try them out! (First time buyer)
@saltcreekammo
4 күн бұрын
@@tgunz64 I'll post videos of what that 1oz Triple Curl #7 does on geese soon... 😬
@theshotgunscientists
Ай бұрын
I wish more people realized just how easy and fast it is to get a perfect crimp with those gaep tools man. I get messages every day from people asking how to get better crimps and I always recommend gaep tools. Anyway, great video.
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
@@theshotgunscientists they make my job easier, that's for sure.
@tripplebeards3427
Ай бұрын
I need to get one!!!
@tonybarnes5309
Ай бұрын
Great video that load is very similar to what I reloaded 2 3/4 Federal topgun hull with TPS wad copper platted BB .177 cal. 20ga felt and overshoot card
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
This was originally a load from BPI but with the TPS1275 wad... I like the CSD118 better, but it's all personal preference.
@mvec646
Ай бұрын
Look forward to more videos from you. Your doing cool stuff!!
@toronadogofast7868
Ай бұрын
I think the other KZitem is Avid waterfowler. Great video. I have listened to JM a lot. Have came around to his way of thinking. Reload a lot for all of the clay shooting disaplines. And like most were loading fast and heavy. Have backed it down a lot and the patterns are a lot better.
@raymondbuie5292
Ай бұрын
Great video , good stuff!
@Oldmanwithagoldpan
Ай бұрын
Love #4 led shot for game loads, tho ive never bird hunted i can imagine that #4 would be a great size steel shot for duck and geese as well. Especially considering those patterns at the end... yep, looks like my #4 game loads.
@philipwatzke5198
Ай бұрын
Great information thanks
@veteranironoutdoors8320
Ай бұрын
I too am going to try a JM load this season. He said 1 1/4oz of #6 steel moving 1200 is all you need out to 40. We shall see.
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
@@veteranironoutdoors8320 I have that load data and plan on sending it in to get proof tested. Seems like it'd be spicy. He has me captivated with this stuff.
@veteranironoutdoors8320
Ай бұрын
@@saltcreekammoif you get it sorted out before season I’d gladly buy a few boxes from you instead of ordering everything to do it myself and get stuck with leftover components.
@saltcreekammo
4 күн бұрын
@@veteranironoutdoors8320 I've had the 1-1/4oz steel load tested with 3 different hulls and wads, both fold crimped and rolled, and they're all well over SAAMI max average pressure, some over proof pressures... So not safe. He probably just shot them over a chronograph in his backyard. Not going to load or shoot that load personally ever, even though I know my Versamax can handle it.
@grantdoyle4390
Ай бұрын
I shoot a lot of ducks with steel #7 and #5. 1 oz in 12 ga with longshot. 7/8oz with 20 ga steel powder (have to find a new powder soon). I’ve shot all species of ducks with 7s. Teal through mallard and canvasbacks/redheads with 7s out to 45 yards. # 5 if you’re only shooting bigger ducks and gives you a bit more range. Ended up having less cripples on divers when I went to a smaller shot size. Very similar to what your load is, just smaller shot sizes. The 20 ga load is a near copy of Kent Dove Steel.
@tripplebeards3427
Ай бұрын
Black Cheditte hulls are awesome!!!! I would assume that's what Winchester uses for their 10 gauge turkey loads? Only Chedittes in 10 gauge I can find are red. I love the 45 grains of lil gun load you posted! I load 2.5 oz instead of 3 oz. The half ounce payload is perfectly even with the top of my shotcup. Cant get the 3 oz load to hold up long distance. Guessing because about a half ounce of pellets sit above the wad. I use it with a BPI Tuff wad slit down to the 4th ring with 4 pedals. I've been getting around average a 160 to 169 #5 pellet hits in a 10" circle at 45 yards! I remove around 20 grains of pellets and add 20 grains original buffer back in.. I also use a felpro cork gasket for a cushion wad. I roll crimp them with the 4 pin roller and a clear learning chip from the dollar store. They cycle great in my gold. Thanks for the help! Your awesome!!!!
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
The 3oz load does come in a little over SAAMI too-- around 13k-13.5k PSI... That's still fine in my book seeing as the ceiling for 12 gauge 3.5" is 14k... You can't tell me ANY 12 gauge magnum 3.5" gun is tougher than any of the 10ga autos. So... 2.5oz should be the ticket with the bead buffer. Glad you found what works. Thanks for watching.
@tripplebeards3427
Ай бұрын
@@saltcreekammo I also did some was slitting experiments for patterning. I tried 4 slits down to the 3rd, 4th, and 5 th rings on the tough wads. Also a 2 slit all the way to the base. The shallowest 4 pedal slit to the 3rd ring backed out the primer a good 1/8th inch. Learned that the shallower the slits the more the pressure builds. That higher pressure load hit about 6" higher POA at 45 yards than the other 3 tested. The 3oz loads didn't seem to recoil to me any more than factory loads. The patterns just blew out after 30 yards.
@stavroskottos9841
Ай бұрын
Dear Salt Creek, I agree with JM 100%. My 2.3/4" loads are 1.1/8-1.3/16oz depending on shot size. My 3" loads are 1.3/8oz in B and B/1 with the B&P steel wad 3-slit, which's devastating on geese. I only pass-shoot, and 50-60 yards is normal. There's little to no difference between loads. Stopped using ATK Steel and 3.1/2" long ago.
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
I'm working on a 2-3/4" 1.25oz steel load next.
@manchapkarm3626
Ай бұрын
@@saltcreekammo Interested in that load
@canadoescalling1800
4 күн бұрын
Me too! I wish manufacturers would use more shot and less powder but marketing speed must sell (and with better profit margins) even though patterning boards and birds in hand would dictate that slow and heavy increases lethality. Thanks for a great video..those patterns at 40 look fantastic!
@marktaylor5565
Ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video
@gerardcarlile5671
Ай бұрын
This is how I shoot all my shot. Heres a load I use all the time. 3" cheddite case 30 grains A.Steel B&P 3"wad 40 grams steel 5s (1 7/16ths) Rolled finish with frangible disc. Use with tight chokes and it's a killer out to 50 proper yards even on big mallard. Really effective on teal and wigeon . Around 1250 fps.
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
@@gerardcarlile5671 looks like it'd be a great load! I would assume that load with a roll crimp is as long as a 3.5" fold crimp?
@gerardcarlile5671
Ай бұрын
@saltcreekammo pretty much. It's doesn't quite feed in a 3" Franchi. 2.74" on the one I measured . Stonking patterns too. I use the same components and powder charge for 2 oz buffered lead when shooting geese in Scotland. That one is only 1100 fps but responds to very tight chokes . I am now working on subsonic steel loads for my "Hushpower "Franchi ,basically a moderated barrel that can be very quiet
@nebraskaman8247
Ай бұрын
I’ve always had best success with #2 steel for ducks. Seems to always knock them down even if the shot wasn’t the best. Everyone has their favorite though.
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
I've seen #2 steel reach out and grab them. My brother loves the Speed Shok #2's from Federal... I've always been a #1-#BB kind of guy. Never had an issue with killing stuff dead with bigger pellets, so this will be an interesting year field testing.
@nebraskaman8247
Ай бұрын
Good luck with your tests! I tried some top brand bismuth #3 shot mix this past season. Went and picked up different shells. The Winchester shells have always been pretty good. Lately I’ve been using Kent, and they work great as well.
@clinte9897
Ай бұрын
I wonder why another manufacturer hasn’t stepped up and produced a steel powder. Seems to be a market
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
@@clinte9897 I've started developing loads duplexing powders to achieve similar ballistics as Steel would. I have a 1-3/8oz steel shot load with a powder blend/duplex that works great. I'm not about to go sharing that info as most people have a hard enough time with basic handloading.
@clks1165
Ай бұрын
I like to see a 3" hull 1 1/4 or 1 3/8 oz steel shot loads fold crimp with hodgdon lil gun powder
@bramswaneveld3143
22 күн бұрын
Hi Salt Creek Ammunition, Great info you have! I'm new in reloading steelshot. We have limited access to powders and reloading data in The Netherlands, although Hodgdon Longshot and Clays, Herco, Lovex D013, Vihtavuori N320 is possible. I have Gualandi wads (BRG M and BRG Tube), Cheddite used hulls and cx 2000 primers. I need advise for 7/8 and 1 oz steelshot loads.
@saltcreekammo
22 күн бұрын
@@bramswaneveld3143 I did a video on a 1oz steel load further back. Uses Longshot and the Gualandi super G aka MG42 wad.
@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984
Ай бұрын
This is off Topic for sure , but do you have any 3” 410 TSS / Steel or TSS / Bismuth Duplex Loads?
@franksbees3884
23 күн бұрын
GREAT name Salt Creek Ammo I use to live on salt creek by Lincoln You make very nice videos are you in Nebraska? Thanks good job
@saltcreekammo
23 күн бұрын
@@franksbees3884 thanks brotha! We're based in Utah. There's a Salt Creek WMA north about 2 hours from us and a monument/actual creek local in my town called Salt Creek. Piute Indians massacred a bunch of Dutch Mormon settlers back in the 1800's near Salt Creek.
@clks1165
21 күн бұрын
I got some ideas that you may like regarding steel shot one making a 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz load using hodgdon lil gun powder or two making a safe 3" 1 1/4 oz load with longshot powder. Which should give you velocity from 1200 to 1300 fps
@saltcreekammo
21 күн бұрын
@@clks1165 I just tested 1-1/4oz in 2-3/4" with 21 grains of Longhsot. It was 18,700 PSI and 1170 FPS... Lil'gun is too bulky for 2-3/4" with that payload, I would think. But I'm all ears man. I won't knock it until I try it.
@clks1165
21 күн бұрын
@@saltcreekammo try that longshot powder 1 1/4 oz load in a 3" instead of a 2 3/4" that should give the load a safe psi
@clks1165
21 күн бұрын
@saltcreekammo due to 2 3/4" it will have too high of psi with that payload, try 3" with that same charge (21 gr) if it works at that charge and work your way to a max charge. If that doesn't work, try 1 1/5oz of steel shot in the load
@jamesboland6072
Ай бұрын
That fits on your neck you have the starter and then you have the finisher instead of the regular finisher that it's on the Mac could you please help me figure out how I can purchase these two items for my Mac machine
@jdunn6092
Ай бұрын
Will these be for sale on the website? Also how much would they cost? Thanks
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
@@jdunn6092 send us an email for a quote.
@omarabdelrahman3739
Ай бұрын
You probably have to carry a magnet with you to prove to LF that it's steel. BTW I've read that heavy loads don't pattern as well-- can't remember the source.
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
@@omarabdelrahman3739 I haven't seen anything in my own testing that would suggest payload has anything to do with pattern performance. My 1-3/8oz steel load shoots as good or better than these (1250-1270 FPS).
@omarabdelrahman3739
Ай бұрын
@@saltcreekammo Thanks for your response, but more importantly, sharing the results of your work.
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
@@omarabdelrahman3739 thanks for watching!
@jamesboland6072
Ай бұрын
Sir could you please help me my name is James Baldwin I live in Park Hills Missouri I've been trying to purchase these omv items I do not speak Russian I could you help me where tell me where you got your six point crimp started that fits on your neck and then that gape on the finisher
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
Ballistic products has them as well as GAEP on their online store.
@clks1165
Ай бұрын
What the psi?
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
@@clks1165 11,500 PSI
@clks1165
Ай бұрын
@@saltcreekammo I would back the charge to 21 to 22 max so you psi stay in safe psi longshot is know for Having? Spice psi, with this you will stay in safe psi for 2 3/4 and 3" chamber.
@clks1165
Ай бұрын
@@saltcreekammo plus the velocity will stay in that same speed
@saltcreekammo
Ай бұрын
@@clks1165 PSI and velocity are married to each other. I have no problems shooting max pressures in my guns. In the end, you'll be fine if you keep any gauge under 14k PSI.
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