What's your favourite feature on the SIGMA ROX 12.0? 👇
@trojice3
6 жыл бұрын
The 90's mobile phone look
@mithral999
6 жыл бұрын
That route planner looks great but is it uci legal? Looks like it'll stick out past the hoods
@boomerangfreak
6 жыл бұрын
for me that draw my route option is the best feature it has to offer followed by the route options so I can avoid any major roads.
@godswill6614
6 жыл бұрын
That squiggle =bike path is awesome. Ill wait for the 3rd gen though
@sportnation8885
6 жыл бұрын
Food reminder and drawing your route, apart from that it’s the same as other competitors just with inappropriate price tag £££
@xtianeskay5166
6 жыл бұрын
Sigma uses an old Sony-Ericsson as headunit! It fits perfectly to your 2007 bike...
@danielbum912
6 жыл бұрын
Draw my route gave me an actual "woah" moment
@11robotics
6 жыл бұрын
I'd never trust an "on-the-go" route planner, or any automated route planner for that matter. The only way to make sure you don't end up on roads you can't ride (either because bikes aren't allowed or because the road is not rideable) is to check every single one yourself using Google Street View. And I for one ended up screwing up every single time I didn't check the roads myself on Street View. Last time I did that we ended up on a gravel road and the girl I was riding with took a nasty crash, while some other times I ended up on roads where bikes were forbidden even though no online service showed that and had to take a big detour. So bottom line, use all these route planners at your own risk, at least until somebody makes a 100% reliable mapping system for cyclists (including complete data about what road is good for what sort of bike).
@danielbum912
6 жыл бұрын
@@11robotics True!
@idlemindoftim
6 жыл бұрын
I realise this is sponsored content so unlikely to be an in-depth review, but GCN could show some integrity in a later video by putting the best from Garman/Wahoo/Sigma head to head in different conditions. My money is on the Wahoo Bolt.
@chetlangford2144
6 жыл бұрын
it almost looks like a old mp3 players
@indysbike3014
6 жыл бұрын
Sigma is my top brand for bike computers. I have the rox11.0 and I love it.
@adamtady9288
3 жыл бұрын
I have this one
@brianschiff2934
6 жыл бұрын
Its a very nice head unit but I'm staying with my Wahoo Bolt. Small, simple, can read the display in any lighting and I just like the way it works. Isn't that Emma's bike?
@michielnooren2076
6 жыл бұрын
I also love my Bolt but I really do miss the different bike profiles.
@namdude0373
6 жыл бұрын
I'm liking the Crockett road bike, that's what I did with mine! A change of the wheelset turns it into a gravel bike!
@Juan0003
6 жыл бұрын
Where do I click to win one?
@JogBird
6 жыл бұрын
240 x 400 screen??? is this 1995???
@lux-3001
5 жыл бұрын
Do you want to watch netflix on it or use it for it's intended purpose?
@Samuel-it6pv
6 жыл бұрын
Very cool device. I dont always has to be a garmin. I have got the previous model, the rox 11.0 GPS.
@ivarbrouwer197
6 жыл бұрын
Seems like they did the same method for maps as Polar did: which worked pretty well: if they work on the price point of polar or below then they have a chance of making an impact. What the risks of such a design are: 1 - color screens are difficult in sunlight 2 - touchscreens are difficult in wet conditions The best new feature is the draw your route feature, but this feature could easily be introduced on a phone too if you can pair it. Wonder how granular you can adjust your route...
@ElonMuckX
6 жыл бұрын
The Dolomites.........GCN's "satellite" office
@willbert7715
6 жыл бұрын
5 years ago at sigma hq: a: "woah have you heard about that thing.. wait... android?" b: "yeah cool thing, my phone runs it, i can download any app, there are apps for everything, look... dices. DICES!!" a: "yeah yeah cool, cool, but, what about... wait... lets make a bike computer... based on android" b: "yeah coool, then i can role the dice while riding" a: "yeah and think about it, we can make some cases, like..nokia. 5110... you know." b: "yeah great, so i can role yellow dice" a: "yes that would be so massive, we dont have to care about the design, or the display size, or the resolution, or ...." 2018: sigma reveals a bike computer at the size and the thickness, the display and the resolution. of a nokia 5110 cellphone of 1995. --> to big, to thick, the bezel is ugly, glossy glass? yes... no. you even can see the leds of the lighting.
@IvanMalechko
5 жыл бұрын
Before gps era sigma used to make the best traditional bike computers and you still can buy it for your vintage setup.
@unairamos74
6 жыл бұрын
I use an iPhone 4S running Runtastic on my bike. It cost me 35€ and I carry with me GPS, Google Maps, a camera, a phone, and a comunicating device, all in one. Simple to use and synced with all mi iOS devices. And it lasts easily any full ride. I need no more features or power, and for the price of a cheap bike component, it’s unbeatable!
@bencarley-macauly6947
6 жыл бұрын
For me the Element is amazing and so simple and I know it won't go wrong, which is my worry when head units start operating on Android systems.
@goncalorosas8023
6 жыл бұрын
Ben Carley-Macauly cof cof ;) joshua0.dreamwidth.org/65779.html#elemnt_towhat
@charlesmansplaining
6 жыл бұрын
My Elemnt started giving me the wrong data and lost it's reliability after 16 months of use.
@idlemindoftim
6 жыл бұрын
The ELEMNT Bolt does run on Android! But it’s testament to how well they’ve integrated everything that you never even notice. It’s a wonderful device, love mine to bits.
@Kashimax
6 жыл бұрын
Dem BEZELS tho.
@RelakS__
5 жыл бұрын
ROX 10 were able to track the totals of 3 bikes individually. ROX 11 introduced sport profiles, and able to store only one total, which is the sum of all sport profiles. Is ROX 12 able to track more bikes, or it also have only full total, and can't track more bikes individually?
@TheTsunamisteve78
6 жыл бұрын
This video needs more cow bell
@topher.m
6 жыл бұрын
Looks like a recased old Nokia N series phone from the early OOs
@HerezaLiem
6 жыл бұрын
P.S. Wahoo Elemnt also used an Android
@charliemichael804
6 жыл бұрын
I really like the route drawing feature, but I'm not keen on the software being Android-based. My experience with Android-based devices that are NOT phones, is that the software tends to get left behind as Android is updated.
@andreasboger8261
6 жыл бұрын
Charlie Michael, by the way, the Wahoo Elemnt is an Android device too, AFAIK.
@pedalandonaeuropa
6 жыл бұрын
It has some nice features for sure, specially the routing options are far better than that ones on Wahoo (without the smartphone together), but the form factory of old mp3 player is very ugly, also it's a huge bottom bezel with name and model, and finally the screen doesn't look to have a proper contrast ratio. Really hoping for some new releases from Wahoo to change my Bolt.
@_broody2853
5 жыл бұрын
Is it a capacitive (touch) or resistive (pressure) screen?
@ronnyverduyckt898
6 жыл бұрын
I like this GPS training machine. But can you also connect en send your data with a USB to our PC? Or only WIFI ?
@geolocate
6 жыл бұрын
Nice features, unit a little chunky looking.
@notexactlyrocketscience
4 жыл бұрын
was there ever a "second look" then?
@PathfinderGregg
6 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Gotta check this piece of equipment out. Thanks.
@yute-hube779
2 жыл бұрын
Folks, what is the cheapest most basic GPS unit where I can put my own GPX file into it? I don't care about touch screens or it being in colour. I just want it to have GPS navigation that tells me when to turn left or right! Can the cheap Sigma ROX 4.0 have GPX files loaded into it? That looks a lot like an oldschool bike computer but it is GPS and is about £70.
@yangguan4070
6 жыл бұрын
Looks so much better than the Garmin units which cost a bomb
@santiagobenites
6 жыл бұрын
I'm confused. Is that a Trek in Bianchi green?
@rondagscedric
6 жыл бұрын
such big bezzle's
@jasperensander3162
6 жыл бұрын
We all want to make our bikes lighter and aerodynamic, you put on such a big computer. I do not get it anymore.
@marcelk6514
6 жыл бұрын
Jasper En Sander As if that thing would make any measurable difference, except for maybe during a world record attempt on the track
@johnq.public1689
5 жыл бұрын
@@marcelk6514 Exactly.
@godswill6614
6 жыл бұрын
Si, why do you love such low cadences? Saw your KOM attempt, great effort, but too much grinding champ, spin to win!
@guyvanhauwe3267
6 жыл бұрын
ik ga in 2019 de marmotte rijden zou deze wel kunnen gebruiken als deze 16uur meegaat als alles volledig opstaat . doe zo verder, GCN
@easyx9mm
6 жыл бұрын
I will keep my Garmin. My 1000 works great.
@ScottieWM86
6 жыл бұрын
Someone should make a Si Richardson "look at that" compilation lol
@adamtady9288
3 жыл бұрын
Got it
@LeoInterHyenaem
5 жыл бұрын
That "draw on the screen" to chart a route function is extremely tempting. And so are the free maps. 16-hour battery life is a bit mediocre, but not the worst by today's standards, either. The screen ought to be edge-to-edge horizontally and top edge to home button vertically (without compromising the battery life). Th resolution is total rubbish (again, to preserve battery? Or to save money?). The connectivity is a bit too limited.
@BlazingBigJointz
6 жыл бұрын
Looks good! My Garmin 820 lasts 100km before battery is low (even when using low battery setting). The routing speed and function on the Garmin is USELESS. i will never buy anything Garmin again. Ever. Hopefully Sigma can save my sanity.
@WanderABit
6 жыл бұрын
I really wait for the day when displays will be mature enough to use smartphones in full sun. It will put an end to the misery of those bike "computers" with limited capabilities -- the same way as smartphones eradicated dumb-cameras. Maybe this is my background, but buying a piece of hardware when your freedom is limited to downloading tracks and uploading maps... not for me.
@marcelk6514
6 жыл бұрын
Maciej Pilichowski So true. I just don't get bike computers, my phone does the same and way more
@aemediainc
6 жыл бұрын
Bike computers have a much lower battery drain than a smartphone, and not everybody needs a 5" screen and 1000 apps when riding.
@marcelk6514
6 жыл бұрын
aemediainc Just need one app for recording and navigation, and my phone goes about 160km with one charge, so in the 1% of rides where I go further I take a small powerbank with me
@marcelk6514
6 жыл бұрын
Plus it's nice to see things like rain radar without having to stop
@antonpeterson1245
6 жыл бұрын
The cows give it a 'Super nice'
@RegurBellej2
5 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the sense off humor... seems to be full of functions, crucial questions which i can't seem to find the answer on, can't it connect via phone to upload the activity to strava? And can you load it with GPX to use turn-by-turn navi? Cheers!
@enotracoon9244
6 жыл бұрын
Great ad. I would also watch a review, not payed commercial
@kylefunk7171
6 жыл бұрын
How often does Simon get a new bike? I'm jealous.
5 жыл бұрын
gogo!
@joaoguerreiro8043
6 жыл бұрын
Does it conects with di2?
@ronbell7920
6 жыл бұрын
As other commentators have stated, pretty expensive, and pretty large. As a SIGMA ROX 11.0 user there are several upgrades in this system. Color display, larger viewing area, and more mapping functions. The ROX 11.0, only gives bread crumb navigation, but, downloading routes is very easy and has always been spot on. I have used the Garmin Edge device and I like the SIGMA unit better. Cadence, heart rate, power, are all supported by the ROX 11.0 unit, and it seamlessly integrates with other ANT+ units. The head unit itself is about 1/4 the size of this ROX 12.0 unit, but it is easily readable and also supports 6 pages of data. I paid $250 for the package with the cadence/speed monitor and heart rate strap. Like I said navigation with a preloaded, Open Street Map, route has been easy and if one veers off the route the navigation function picks back up again when you get back on route. This was the most annoying thing about the Garmin Edge unit as it would recalculate the route the minute one veered off, and it would NEVER pick up when you did get back on route! I think that this might not be a problem for Garmin's 800/1000 series units but it really is annoying with the Garmin Edge unit. The ability of the ROX 11.0 unit to give the user great data, speed, power, %grade, cadence, heart rate, etc. makes using it really great for the price. It also has the workout function Si mentions in this review. So, maybe GCN should check out this unit as well given it is almost half the price! Thanks for the review, but after seeing it, I think I prefer the ROX 11.0 to this unit.
@valentinmargaritescu3470
6 жыл бұрын
Hello Simon. Do you think it is worth the money?this is coming from some one that is sigma fan,owning the 2 prevoius ROX models(10 and 11). Cheers
@nessuno5403
6 жыл бұрын
Valentin Margaritescu look for DC Rainmaker's review
@cyclonefruitbat5548
6 жыл бұрын
Nice bike
@puczitosdupitos
6 жыл бұрын
£430 for a bundle :-) Personally I think it is a p.... take 😯
@paulerrington2949
6 жыл бұрын
still cheaper than a 1030
@chrisoliver6690
6 жыл бұрын
Given that you can pick up a really good smart phone for £250 with a massive 4000mil amp battery, camera, fast processors and a bunch of other features I totally agree, this is a piss take. Same with most other bike equipment tbh.
@11robotics
6 жыл бұрын
lol the same old smartphone vs bike computer discussion. - very few smartphones have ANT+ connectivity - even with a 4000 mAh external battery, a smartphone will never have a 10+ hours autonomy with the screen on at 100% luminosity all the time and apps running - most smartphones will overheat like hell if you keep them for hours in direct sun, with the screen on at 100% luminosity all the time and with an external battery plugged in - smartphones are far less shockproof and waterproof than proper bike computers - smartphones (with an external battery) ar far larger and heavier than a proper bike computer - smartphones have touchscreens and touchscreens on a bike suck (I'd never buy a bike computer with a touchscreen either) If you only need to log your rides and check a map from time to time, then a smartphone kept in a bike pocket is more than enough. If on the other hand you need a bike computer to look at data (speed, cadence, HR, slope) as well as the map continuously, then a smartphone is far from offering what it takes.
@NeoPayneHK
6 жыл бұрын
what? 430euros???
@chrisoliver6690
6 жыл бұрын
@@11robotics Well my Phone is completely shock and water proof but I take your point on the fact they are built to do different things. So the tech is different but does that really justify such a massive cost? Bike tech is over priced from clothing to components to full bikes.
@drakestafford1
6 жыл бұрын
what will the cost be?
@georgehugh3455
6 жыл бұрын
Actual USABLE screen compared to overall size is a bit underwhelming. Features and WiFi connectability seem interesting.
@jade4805
6 жыл бұрын
Draw my route....I likes !
@matthewbenger8355
6 жыл бұрын
Might aswell buy a phone then and use a quadlock then... probably cheaper. Personally i dont want those functions on my gps unit, i want speed,power, distance and my garmin 520 is perfect size for this. This seems like what happened with iPods all over agaim except your music system and phone merging its going to be gps system and phone...
@gulfcitynd
6 жыл бұрын
I'll stick toy catseye velo 7 bike computer no distractions
@postvoorjohn69
6 жыл бұрын
Hello gcn! Great stuff but not sold yet... Does the head unit recalculate a new route when you are off the route? And costs? Just looking to trade in my now 4 year old Phone with quadlock that i now use to navigate (also using a powerbank) but somehow all the big brands are stil selling us gameboys... Ps did you guys review te karoo hammerhead yet?
@postvoorjohn69
6 жыл бұрын
Holy fart... 399,00. Back to recharging my powerbank then...
@m45hhour
6 жыл бұрын
looks more like a smartphone rather than a bike computer eh!
@jannikw.8843
6 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Can you pair Garmin Sensors with the Rox?
@ronbell7920
5 жыл бұрын
yes, if they are ANT+!
@mrtnsnp
6 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, timely. The on/off switch of my Garmin Edge 1000 just popped off (the cover, but that has a negative effect on how waterproof the unit is), and I'm not really looking forward for another Garmin head unit. I do have Vector 2 pedals though. Can you show a bit more on how power meters are handled in the full review? Does it display/record center-offsets and power phase?
@nessuno5403
6 жыл бұрын
Maarten Sneep look for DC Rainmaker's review
@mrtnsnp
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, will keep an eye out.
@Csapi007
6 жыл бұрын
Wahoo did the revolution needed after Garmin ruled the market for years. This one doesn't do that again...
@martinwilliams2700
5 жыл бұрын
Did you forget to tell us the price?
@michaelrace8950
6 жыл бұрын
Never seen anyone reviewing a touch screen GPS unit with winter gloves in the rain.... I assume they won't work so will likely favour the old-school buttons of the Wahoo elmnt for my next upgrade. Can anyone tell me otherwise?!
@deklimmer
6 жыл бұрын
See this review, he uses gloves as a test kzitem.info/news/bejne/w4N4zWmKZl-QeoI
@HelenWilkie
6 жыл бұрын
It looks good but that big, edge-to-edge touchscreen looks like it would quickly end up the way most phones go - smashed to bits
@AlvaroQF
6 жыл бұрын
Really nice, but would love to see a review of the Bryton Aero 60, a more affordable device.
@raftornador4444
6 жыл бұрын
More cowbell
@rjsulzbach
6 жыл бұрын
What are those glasses Si is wearing?
@dietmarweiden9176
6 жыл бұрын
Those are Roka glasses..
@bev-ttfu661
6 жыл бұрын
I liked the look of it until Si pulled out the cadence and wheel sensor. I don't want something that big and ugly on my bike. I'll stop with a Garmin witch I can easily swap the head unit from bike to bike and leave the cadence and speed sensors on each bike and wheels as they are cheep enough to buy for each bike and wheels. Out of interest how much is it?
@karl-heinzmeynberg861
6 жыл бұрын
If you don´t like the sensor of Sigma. Use any other ANT+ Sensor with the ROX 12.0
@karl-heinzmeynberg861
6 жыл бұрын
With any ANT+ sensors yes. AFAIK the Rox 12.0 uses his Bluetooth conectivetie for communication between the Rotor Powermeter and your smartphone and nothing else. If I remember correctly, someone tried to connect a Polar OH1 (what uses BT Smart only, the Wahoo HRM can do ANT+ and BT Smart) and it didn´t work. But if anyone has other information or has tested it, please Correct me.
@alangraham0
6 жыл бұрын
It didn’t say ‘paid promotion’, but it sounded like one. Where was the critical analysis? How does it compare to Garmin or wahoo? Does the Bluetooth connection pair to your phone to have live tracking, like the Garmin? The maps are not provided by Sigma, they’re using Open Street Map. This isn’t a problem, but should have been stated, rather than, like the sigma web site, saying free world wide maps
@deklimmer
6 жыл бұрын
There is no bluetooth connection with your phone, only wifi
@paulb8587
6 жыл бұрын
How much excess packaging was the box it came in! 40 hours on low power - it would take me longer than that to fathom out how to use it. Do you really want to look like Chris Froome and ride with your eyes clamped to your computer all day and miss all that great scenery?
@nessuno5403
6 жыл бұрын
Paul B speaking of which, those mounts should have a Ventolin attachment not just GoPro
@yolo2948
6 жыл бұрын
I still team wahoo :V
@seanbarman
6 жыл бұрын
A budget Chinese smartphone has more tech in it, what a rip off... poor battery life to
@BlazingBigJointz
6 жыл бұрын
14 hours isn't long enough? 40+ hours in power save mode still not enough? SMH.
@lux-3001
5 жыл бұрын
Have your iPhone's display on for 14 hours, I dare you.
@fatwheezer4894
6 жыл бұрын
Lol Matt now works for Sigma right?
@boomerangfreak
6 жыл бұрын
From what I have seen here it has just about anything I love about my current Polar V650 unit (color display, different sport profiles, highly custimizable screens etc) but with the added route planning the V650 is missing. I am certainly keen on trying it out buuut seeing as my current unit is still in fine condition and as tough as a tank considering it survived a couple crashes and plenty drops I do not see the need to get a new head unit sadly enough.
@luishopadilla89
6 жыл бұрын
I used to have a Rox 6.0 and ir was terrible
@funkyfearon1
6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's great to use but it is ugly to look at
@adamtady9288
3 жыл бұрын
Nah
@adamtady9288
3 жыл бұрын
Its much better then you think
@GaeatanCN
6 жыл бұрын
Clearly not the prettiest device nor UI, wouldn't really like to put that on my aerobike :( The draw my route is just amazing and mind boggling fast if Si's video is giving real time execution. Can it really be trusted on the long run though... ? Last but not least 450$... hmmmm, ain't cheap. Good device it seams but not crazy revolutionary. Thanks @GCN Tech for the video :)
@Ecrireenfrancais
6 жыл бұрын
is that a trek alr disc ?
@markstaples7545
6 жыл бұрын
Or is it crockett cyclocross bike with road tyres?
@1mom69
6 жыл бұрын
@@markstaples7545 trek Crockett 2019 in Miami green; new paintjob!
@gcntech
6 жыл бұрын
Beat us to it!
@markstaples7545
6 жыл бұрын
@@gcntech I was looking at them thinking about getting one. Couldn't believe how light they are even compared to carbon frame
@louis05051
6 жыл бұрын
Tadaaaaaaa
@StephansBilderwelt
6 жыл бұрын
Bad engineered. To expensive for what you actually get. Have a look at the new Garmin Explore Edge. Still not a perfect unit, but with a realistic price tag. Maybe they have had an update for the Rox now, but before I send mine back I figured for example out when you try to put in a password with "=" that it is not to be found inside the Rox....yes, great for a price of 459€!
@geolocate
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I recently bought the Garmin Edge Explore and am very happy with it. It doesn't have a barometric altimeter or power meter function on it but I have my Wahoo Elemnt Bolt for that on my racing machine.
@dgnycll6262
6 жыл бұрын
Much bigger, much expensive haha
@patrickkelly885
3 жыл бұрын
Loses connection all the time gps and ant+ lost all ant plus connections twice in an hour today customer service is terrible too back to Garmin for me
@ulascakir
6 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a give away :(
@limyohwan
6 жыл бұрын
motion to nickname Si "Wild Orange". All in favor?
@Prof.SchulzeSternberg
6 жыл бұрын
Si, how much did they pay you to promote this... ... device... #askgcn
@aanddii
6 жыл бұрын
sigma? where is matt
@connriverdesign6708
6 жыл бұрын
Stop the ad crap guys... it’s hard to take this seriously. Unbiased reviews are one thing but paid ads make me want to unsubscribe
@0Argonaut
4 жыл бұрын
@t ich verkaufe meins hier. Neuwertig, gar keine Kratzer und 100% Funktionsfähig
@arich9124
6 жыл бұрын
Way too big unfortunately
@shimzer
5 жыл бұрын
Hi there ... are you doing a Giveaway this Amazing bike gps #SigmaRox12
@mylesiswhite4122
6 жыл бұрын
Sigma balls
@NewEnglandDirtRoadie
6 жыл бұрын
going for a bike ride has become embarrassingly cringey.
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