Complete nonsense. You're basing everything on some hearsay comments of ex employees who you know nothing about. I'll reserve judgment until facts are presented but you go ahead and rely on hearsay.
@rossmanngroup
Жыл бұрын
Self upvoted cope from a Stan who upvotes his own posts.
@doctorhfuhruhurr4380
Жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup Like it matters. Is not allowed? Does it really impact anything? Keep judging without evidence fool.
@doctorhfuhruhurr4380
Жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup when you have no argument then change the subject, that works
@jamesp6267
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@rossmanngroup
Жыл бұрын
Next you will tell me that Reuters made it all up. Defending up voting your own posts is like defending kissing your sister. This is just disgusting. You are a stan.
@pietracupam1
Жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about buying a tesla for years now. But this is the last straw for me, I'm not going to buy one ever, just because this exists. I don't care if they fix it, it should have never happened in the first place.
@itsTyrion
Жыл бұрын
for me it was the apparent lack of QC with new 40k-130k $ cars. Even on a Model S for > 100'000. And then some *SMART* people on Twitter saying "uh what do you expect this is ain't a Mercedes". True. Wouldn't find the same issues on an AMG E series for the same price
@robertsmith2956
Жыл бұрын
At least the people flashed the cameras on Disney log ride on purpose. I liked the pics.
@cclsupra
Жыл бұрын
For me it was the being slightly damaged and its a write off for tesla and no open market for replacement parts.
@d.p.9567
Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Elon broke my heart years ago. Eventually we do see these emperors wear no clothes.
@MissEldira
Жыл бұрын
To me it does not matter how degenerate the spy is. There should not be spyware to begin with!!! We are far to willing to accept it and it has become almost impossible to avoid as a lot of it is built into hardware or operating systems and impossible to turn off or block. Instead of legislating against spyware, they are actively legislating to mandate it
@Grayfox988
Жыл бұрын
Former employees saying it happened as recently as last year pretty much means that this is still happening RIGHT NOW.
@gorkyd7912
Жыл бұрын
Or it could mean that Reuters would like to tank Tesla stock, probably because Musk bought Twitter and nearly all of his wealth is Tesla stock. Are any of these ex-employees named?
@internetshortscomp5810
Жыл бұрын
they're anonymous to protect themselves
@Supraboyes
Жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 have you invested in tesla
@Grayfox988
Жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 Or it could not.
@debtminer4976
Жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 Either way, the capability shouldn't be there. They want to see a show, just don't press charges and I'll give you a God damn show. If you don't, just take out the ''eyes'' then and find something useful to do.
@elishmuel1976
Жыл бұрын
Sounds just about what you expect of a company owned by The Old Mollusk.
@elenabob4953
Жыл бұрын
Rather it is expected to happen in a company mostly populated by young and "hip" people who didn't discover the common sense or decency.
@slick3996
2 ай бұрын
@@elenabob4953 but it is so weird, surely Micrsoft, Meta etc. employ new young people, why do I always hear about Tesla having incompetent and childish management, at this point they probably ask you to rank memes during an interview
@yodaslovetoy
Жыл бұрын
They should join the FBI
@Sunset4Semaphores
Жыл бұрын
This is a feature!
@Cybersawz
Жыл бұрын
Don't be so sure they haven't already.
@atomicdynamite1937
Жыл бұрын
Or the nsa
@elenabob4953
Жыл бұрын
Considering that Chinese banned the entering if Tesla in their military bases I would bet that they are allied with CIA or NSA
@mf--
Жыл бұрын
@@js44317 do remember Snowden and how he published that there were not nearly as many rules as people thought?
@gaBehcuoDsuoitneterP
Жыл бұрын
0:23 I want the edited part back in there. These sociopathic criminals need to be dragged through the street hitched to Tesla bumpers.
@CyberData4
Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. This is a great video, man. Thanks for speaking on this. What a complete shitshow. I absolutely blame leadership. How comfortable do you gotta be to just browse client video feeds like that and not just observe, but disseminate private information like that.
@bimmerfan2126
Жыл бұрын
Forget Tesla, don't touch their products with a 10 foot pole
@wongway40
Жыл бұрын
the sad truth is that people dont change, if you sack them they will join another company and continue this BS
@Dethflash
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like employees spend more time making memes off private videos the Tesla capture than actually working.
@famalam943
Жыл бұрын
The musk D riding is nauseating.
@Frankonero12
Жыл бұрын
People with Tesla's are probably the kind of people that like the idea of being spied upon.
@Theeoldmann
Жыл бұрын
Tesla is not the only auto manufacturer that does similar spying on customers. Yet, this doesn't surprise me.
@YassineKAOUANE
Жыл бұрын
haven't even got to the voyeur sextape collection someone has at tesla.
@thingies4U
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I used to want a Tesla but the last couple years ... SMH.
@coweatsman
Жыл бұрын
This is why I would never have an Alexa or Siri in my house.
@Luminousplayer
Жыл бұрын
could a company please come revolutionize the market....by making a damn normal car again? just remove all this shit and make a good car again
@dougmhd2006
Жыл бұрын
"The culture is damn good." Washington Commanders owner Dan Snyder
@harrisondogma3550
Жыл бұрын
Louis what is this editing, what’s the point of using clips twice it’s a abrasive 😅 great video thanks 🙏
@Bobmcjoepants
Жыл бұрын
There are two upsides to a Tesla vs any other electric vehicle 1) Teslacam 2) charging network And now one of those is proven to be invading your privacy meaning there is virtually no reason to buy one And yet, they'll still sell by the millions
@abavariannormiepleb9470
Жыл бұрын
Another great example to bring up during Right-to-Repair hearings… Remember the “privacy protection” ads car manufacturers ran to warn against evil independent car repair shops stalking their customers in dark parking garages?
@rossmanngroup
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, while I despise them for this, Tesla was one of the few big automakers that wasn't against question 1. General motors, Ford, Toyota, Honda, and Nissan funded those ads about independent repair people abusing your data. Tesla did not. Tesla deserves credit for not contributing millions of dollars towards those slanderous ads. I dislike what Tesla did here, but I cannot lump them in with the rest of the auto industry that spent money on those fear campaigns to convince consumers that right to repair supports redlining, racism, burglary, and kidnapping. I won't let my disdain for Elon musk or them as a company get in the way of reality. Tesla didn't make that argument that independents were rapists and burglars, the other major automakers did. There are enough reasons to dislike Tesla without manufacturing any. accuracy matters
@abavariannormiepleb9470
Жыл бұрын
While it’s “great” that Tesla didn’t participate in that campaign I appreciate the irony that a “trustworthy car manufacturer” basically did the “virtual” light version of what was shown in that ad. Maybe some Tesla management was approached to participate in that campaign and then realized that that might bite them in the rear extra hard some time in the not too distant future ;)
@micesss
Жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup All of these videos have been eye opening about how Tesla and Elon Musk are both so messed up and shouldn't be trusted. I sent these to my parents who own Tesla cars and they are even considering selling their cars.
@rossmanngroup
Жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely can appreciate the irony! We all knew the manufacturer was going to abuse customer privacy before independents did.
@r.c.8268
Жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup That does not rule out the possibility that they will use those arguments the next time they pay a congressman to lobby in favor of them.
@qbasic16
Жыл бұрын
English: "Your privacy is important to us." Translated: "We like to see your privates."
@BubbleMania5678
Жыл бұрын
"Your privacy is very important to us" -> "No it's not". (Same response to "Your call is very important to us" whenever calling the NYS government).
@TheHungrySlug
Жыл бұрын
wow, burn! Nearly every company nowadays!
@Cybersawz
Жыл бұрын
We're viewed as a commodity, and a PITA.
@joannleichliter4308
Жыл бұрын
I always figure that if a company has to air the "Your call is very important to us" trope, it means that you won't think so from their actions.
@bonbonpony
Жыл бұрын
Company: "We value your privacy" Me: "I know, that's why I'll rather keep it to myself."
@IndyAvocadoKid
Жыл бұрын
“Leave your name and number and we’ll call you right back”….within the next week 😂
@AlineaEuros
Жыл бұрын
They tell us to be scared of repair mechanics/technicians for literally the things they're doing right now to their customers.
@DeezNuggz
Жыл бұрын
have you noticed the projection trend yet?
@clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920
Жыл бұрын
always accuse your enemy of what you yourself are doing.
@MiniDevilDF
Жыл бұрын
that's how they came up with the idea of what to worry about
@myne00
Жыл бұрын
Same mentally is why we're afraid of aliens. We're scared they'll treat us like we would treat them if we could. They're scared repairers act like they do.
@pancakerzzz
Жыл бұрын
Apple does the same thing. my friend, after getting her phone back from apple repair services, opened it up and saw her nudes open, front and center. and she was a minor at the time.
@deadmemesandbrokendreams
Жыл бұрын
Honestly made me feel kinda sick. That’s some twisted garbage especially the line about customers having “no expectation of privacy”. Absolutely sickening.
@jort93z
Жыл бұрын
How dare you expect to have privacy in your own garage.
@jort93z
Жыл бұрын
@@josephvanname3377 It seems the car still records when it is just charging.
@alexandruilea915
Жыл бұрын
@@jort93z the software should recognize when st home and stop recording unless explicitly started to record an event such as the case with backing out of the garage bug
@jort93z
Жыл бұрын
@@alexandruilea915 imo it should ask you if you want to report the event to tesla, every time. You know, like programs ask you if you want to report a crash to the developer? Why doesn't the tesla ask you if you want to report an autopilot fail or crash to tesla.
@jackieboy1593
Жыл бұрын
That's why these cameras should be hardwired to only store data to a black box that you have completely control over, with zero internet connectivity.
@deimosian
Жыл бұрын
They're just training the AI to recognize the car's owner by their genitals.
@thatgreencat7978
Жыл бұрын
Oh no... NOT MY TESTIES
@elenabob4953
Жыл бұрын
Well, don't you want it, after all this will make you car "safer" :p
@ohsweetmystery
Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@anthonynelson6671
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful, the inklings of a vehicular gender culture-war has just been observed! Truck-nuts have nothing on this level of messed-up. (sarcasm implied)
@IndyAvocadoKid
Жыл бұрын
@@thatgreencat7978 it’s the latest and greatest form of user entry, you don’t use a key or key fob or even show your face to the car, you stand in front of the car, drop your pants and modern biometric user authentication will open the car door (while Tesla employees laugh there ass off) 😂 geez, these fanboys will put up with anything 😮
@RolyPolyGames
Жыл бұрын
More reason to never buy anything "smart" or internet connected. E: One Email server audit would prove them lying about it not being saved or it being for business only.
@tayzonday
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Apple employees did this with Siri 😱
@Demopans5990
Жыл бұрын
They already do
@Thejeanio
Жыл бұрын
wow i didn't expect to see you here chocolate man
@Erowens98
Жыл бұрын
100% guaranteed they do/did. With big tech spyware its guilty until proven innocent.
@RicardoSantos-oz3uj
Жыл бұрын
What makes you think they dont?
@TomSawyersLeftNut
Жыл бұрын
@@RicardoSantos-oz3uj I'm almost 99% certain he's being sarcastic.
@DocNo27
Жыл бұрын
If I am ever forced to buy a new vehicle the first thing I would do is find and physically remove the embedded cellular modem. Hopefully I will never have to buy another car again.
@TheHungrySlug
Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. f that bs in-built crud no need to have that shiz all open without personal control!
@CeigeNUT
Жыл бұрын
The problem is.. just like video games nowadays, I forsee that vehicles of the future won't be able to drive unless they are connected to an internet source.
@TheHungrySlug
Жыл бұрын
@@CeigeNUT That is exactly where it's heading. but what happens because ISP's don't have sufficient network coverage in whatever area you are driving through and *you decide to make a rest stop. Can you use your car if it's out of network coverage, like phones? shiz is bad and not nearly thought through enough!
@CD-vb9fi
Жыл бұрын
There are usually some videos for how to do things like that. More and more places are popping up to do these things.
@BoopBobBeep
Жыл бұрын
Wait until the vehicle requires internet connection in order to start!
@cormoran2303
Жыл бұрын
While the car owner might "give up their privacy", their family members have not signed those same rights away. This seems highly criminal. This from the company owned by the same guy who went absolutely bananas over his mere location being broadcast.
@infinitesimotel
Жыл бұрын
The only rights consumers have, is to be exploited in every way without recourse.
@FlabbyTabby
Жыл бұрын
Privacy for me, but not for thee. - Elon, probably
@cpK054L
Жыл бұрын
@@FlabbyTabby Tesla is a data-driven company. Elon doesn't care about what you do, but he does care that what you do makes him a shitload of money for rocket to Mars.
@sujanaryal833
Жыл бұрын
I remember getting in a heated debate with his goons in the comments about how the kid didn't do anything wrong because flights information is already public and he merely made it easy to look. I am sure those goons will unironically defend this practice. They care about Elon's "privacy" more than theirs own.
@cpK054L
Жыл бұрын
@@sujanaryal833 not all flights are public. That's where he is wrong. Flying a plane in an airspace without a callsign is a quick way to get shot down by the airforce
@Ki-Bi
Жыл бұрын
So now you can't make love inside the car or near around it, that is what those creeps are expecting to find and not just random privacy, there is no doubt about it.
@skweejee
Жыл бұрын
How is this not being reported on every news station
@Snotnarok
Жыл бұрын
Because they have better things to report on: Things they've sensationalized to make more and more people hate eachother for picking 'the wrong side' of politics or whatever else they can make up without reporting actual real news.
@infinitesimotel
Жыл бұрын
Backhanders and agenda conformance most likely
@beanburritozz3044
Жыл бұрын
Because twitter, google, and apple already have all your data and nobody cares
@KARLOSPCgame
Жыл бұрын
Because the cars status quo, talk bad about a car and you will become the enemy
@peachulemon
Жыл бұрын
Elso suppressing it on Twitter probably, and banning every who talks about I can bet
@doooofus
Жыл бұрын
very reminiscent of the snowden leaks with the nsa, minus the promotions bit for sharing the pics i guess
@carldevans1
Жыл бұрын
Every time I start to consider buying a Tesla, there's a new news report or a tweet that makes me change my mind.
@richardcampbell8685
Жыл бұрын
Yup and all modern cars are following after.
@gorkyd7912
Жыл бұрын
There are two kinds of news in America: establishment and independent. Establishment media wants to tank Tesla stock because #1 they want to buy it themselves after it tanks, #2 it is being used to fund Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter, #3 they are invested in Ford and Rivian and they will benefit from Tesla tanking. Independent media wants to tank Tesla stock because they don't want drivers to be forced into electric vehicles. So that's why you get anti-Tesla reports all the time constantly. But consider the source, would Reuters ever lie? Would the unnamed ex-employees ever lie?
@tux_the_astronaut
Жыл бұрын
This is why older cars are better im never gonna get a car that can connect to the internet
@mirandataylor6385
Жыл бұрын
The images of the people who were decapitated by Tesla vehicles is enough to make me never consider getting one.
@MaryWehmeier
Жыл бұрын
You’re not alone. Oh. Hell. No.
@DyaniAdornBeads
Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of news that makes me hesitate selling my 2001 sedan. I miss basic cars. I don’t want to sit inside a reality television vibe car and I don’t want to pay subscriptions. It’s madness.
@ArDeeMee
Жыл бұрын
If your cars runs, keep it. If it doesn’t, get a second hand car, older model. Research older models on the internet, so you know what to expect. Alternatively, buy a cheap Chinese or Korean car. The cheaper, the less tech.
@tux_the_astronaut
Жыл бұрын
I will never get a car that can connect to the internet
@infinitesimotel
Жыл бұрын
@@ArDeeMee Buy the oldest model you can and get parts for it
@davidshepherd265
Жыл бұрын
I was having a discussion with a friend not long ago about something along the lines of this, and she was saying that she might have upgrade from her old Saturn, and I said, "no, if anything do whatever you can to keep that thing on the road" Personally between shit like this, and the fact that most new cars in general don't really appeal to me anymore, I can't see myself upgrading from the newest car I have which is from 2007.
@cpK054L
Жыл бұрын
@@infinitesimotel problem is that OEMs are near IMPOSSIBLE to get, even dealerships don't sell them. The best you can do is literally build it yourself with a CNC machine.
@Random-ji5sy
Жыл бұрын
Louis always bringing us the real juicy news
@Bimmer1850
Жыл бұрын
We use to be terrified of big brother but apparently have been conditioned to welcome it. I imagine our morality is next as stated in all social media app agreements. "You forfeit your morale rights"
@soliniv1411
Жыл бұрын
It's inevitable mr anderson
@louisvl10
Жыл бұрын
This is a universal law: power makes humans go mad. If an employee can use the company's IT infra to stalk people, someone will eventually do it. #Decentralize
@Disenfranchised-lu1zv
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Those that seek power the most are the ones that least deserve it.
@bonbonpony
Жыл бұрын
Just give people the right tools and wait, and you can be sure that they'll figure out how to make the "right" use of them. The last couple of years was a perfect example of that.
@Manatee360Phototography
Жыл бұрын
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@MadsterV
Жыл бұрын
The best way for a LARGE margin to keep your data private over the internet is: don't send your data over the internet. At least not unencrypted.
@louisvl10
Жыл бұрын
@@MadsterV This should be built in by default into everything but companies enjoy being able to snoop on our shiit too much, iit's the whole business moddel of most IT giants... Some zero knowledge smart contract construction could solve it all but that don't pay the bills of the aforementioned companies'CEO's and investors. Fucking circus shit.
@bonkmaykr
Жыл бұрын
This all has happened before. Didn't Snowden mention something about how the feds would share and laugh at intimate text messages?
@ForgottenKnight1
Жыл бұрын
Yup, this is why you need to always use a VPN provider, preferably not from your country.
@deadsettle
Жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenKnight1 VPNs are so over hyped as a perfect privacy solution, better sure but you still gotta trust the VPN provider when they say it's not back doored...
@bonkmaykr
Жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenKnight1 A VPN is not going to protect you from something like this... Do you actually believe that will work? A VPN just tunnels traffic, it's not going to save you from a compromised device or poor data retention by the software you are using.
@ryandgarland
Жыл бұрын
I would be shocked if all of the 3 letter agencies don't have backend access to this camera data. Just like they have hooks into Google searches, your email, all of your phone calls and phone camera.
@ShaunDrutar
Жыл бұрын
They do and have used the capability a few times indeed.
@CD-vb9fi
Жыл бұрын
They have it. Not only does the US government not use NSL's and inappropriate relationships or communications with these companies they also send in or TURN "employees" that are working there that has the access necessary to gain this information.
@coaulsi
Жыл бұрын
Ofc they do
@ricky4673
Жыл бұрын
It's all one big mafia in charge of underlings. Mush is just an underling.
@infinitesimotel
Жыл бұрын
the real issue is : why would they NOT have intrinsic access?
@spiderjerusalem6887
Жыл бұрын
20 second mark is one of my favorite Louis moments ever.
@rars0n
Жыл бұрын
I don't even want them to have access to METADATA about the things I'm doing, let alone a live video feed. You'd have to be insane to buy a car from this company, honestly. My decision to buy older, used cars continues to pay off time and time again.
@FoulNews
Жыл бұрын
If you do this type of shit in the Healthcare industry, you're facing significant legal consequences, as well as the healthcare company. This type of stuff will become more and more commonplace as more tech gets injected into cars. I remember the OnStar scandals back when OnStar first came out with employees listening in etc... As much as I can't stand new laws / legislation, there should be something in place for companies spying on their consumers.
@ryank6322
Жыл бұрын
Jerks like this are the reason that big government exists...😕
@bonbonpony
Жыл бұрын
Laws is an attempt to solve this problem at the wrong level. What we need instead is open hardware that is easily auditable for everyone, and in the long run, hardware that can be manufactured by everyone in their own garage or a small privately-owned company. The way technology is (ab)used against us these days is a direct outcome of the fact that we're not in charge of the technology - just the big corpos are, and we are only users/consumers (i.e. wallets with legs) to them.
@MickeyMishra
Жыл бұрын
I can tell you that the Veterans Administration had many more holes then plugs in their System. Its been like this for a long time. Same with anyone who can tap into a microphone? A camera? They will.
@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
Жыл бұрын
There are existing measures to deal with this sort of abuse. They're called wood chippers.
@cpK054L
Жыл бұрын
You're implying nurses don't blab their brains out. > Imagine being this foolish I had a nurse Ultrasound my testicles. I wouldn't doubt she told her friends about my swollen nut sack.
@cycleboy8028
Жыл бұрын
Just starting the video... but this HAS to fall under wiretapping laws in all states and federally since they probably got images across state lines.
@harriettedaisy2233
Жыл бұрын
No expectation of privacy in your own garage? Ooookaaayyy, no expectation of purchasing a Tesla.
@shellyd9287
Жыл бұрын
After listening to you rant in this video I am more inclined to send my device to you for repair. YOU GET IT!!
@4sh3n47
Жыл бұрын
we shouldn't have to rely on the privacy policy or the company culture. there should just be no way for anyone at tesla to remotely view the cameras
@bvoyelr
Жыл бұрын
Sadly, it's part of the package that customers bought -- they specifically purchased self driving capabilities, which includes collection of camera data to help train and improve the system. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that -- if you don't want it, you don't have to buy it (and with Tesla, it's a literal a la carte system, which is nice). So humans will have to look at this data eventually. We just need them to do it responsibly.
@sujanaryal833
Жыл бұрын
@@bvoyelr humans don't need to look at those camera images and videos. All they need to do is automatically feed the data to the AI.
@arcrad
Жыл бұрын
@@sujanaryal833 sadly it takes people manually identifying objects in the video/images to create training data for the AI. That's how it learns to identify things in the first place.
@pjpleiss
Жыл бұрын
The bigger questions I have are "why is this video data being sent to tesla corporate?" and "why is this data not locked behind a security system where the employee must have a documented need (or a warrant) to access the data?"
@MyName-tb9oz
Жыл бұрын
Supposedly the camera data is needed for improving the self-driving feature. They need the observations of traffic situations and how the car would handle the situation to improve the system. That makes sense. What doesn't make sense is employees having any kind of access to those recordings AT ALL. Also... Louis is right about the corporate culture being the problem. This is a really serious issue for Tesla.
@RyanRoadReaper
Жыл бұрын
Exactly why I dont want a car with a camera and microphones pointed at me that I can't turn off, or one that sends my GPS data and everything about my driving habits to God only knows who.
@richardcampbell8685
Жыл бұрын
As a former cyber guy we always understood that, just because you had access didn’t mean you got to look.
@bonbonpony
Жыл бұрын
But if it is possible to look, someone will do that eventually.
@infinitesimotel
Жыл бұрын
You did, but others take it as "can" means "will". And they will.
@anthonynelson6671
Жыл бұрын
@@infinitesimotel True, sometimes all somebody needs as a reason to do something is that they simply can do it.
@XDRosenheim
Жыл бұрын
But why do you have access if you do not have to look at it?
@anthonynelson6671
Жыл бұрын
@@XDRosenheim I think that is a good question. One way I can think of to go about answering it is through a healthcare analogy. Suppose two nurses who work for the same hospital on the same floor have zero overlapping patients, but their authority levels and role permissions are the same. And they are working the same day-part. Each nurse could technically have equal access and permissions to jump into all the charts of all the patients on that floor. But, in the course of their shifts, they likely would not have cause to be accessing any charts of the same patients assuming neither had to be covering for the other at any section of time during the shifts.
@angellike2234
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Louis, for this video, I already returned 6 fleet Teslas because of this. Louis, you also are using the language I used when I returned them to Tesla
@javianbrown8627
Жыл бұрын
I worked at a company where I had to often enter people's credit card info and I knew how scary it was for some people. The worst part is I'm the kind of person who can sometimes remember random information whether I wanted to or not and I've always tried my best to not memorize their credit card details because even though using this info you couldn't track it back to me easily, I valued the trust the costumers had in us and I was literally just a regular worker who had no vested interest in the company or anything. It was just a day to day job but even then we're still dealing with other people here.
@Snotnarok
Жыл бұрын
That's exactly why I didn't take any calls or EMAIL requests for buying things. I had people who didn't want to buy via the store's web interface through my small business and I refused to take credit card info via calls. I told them that their orders go through the store anyway, it's not any more or less secure and they should order what they want straight from the store where we have SSL & shopify to protect their info.
@cecollins68
Жыл бұрын
Im convinced that this is how the large majority of credit card theft occurs, you get on a phone call with someone give over your information and then they either steal the Info themselves or forward it to someone else for cash who then sells it online for profit.
@TNumbers
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: A certain Live Nation location (not sure if it’s the same at others) required you to enter your whole SSN in on a keypad in order to clock in and clock out. This was years ago and don’t know if it still happens but I could only imagine what could happen if someone were to take advantage of it...
@asdfbeau
Жыл бұрын
I think they should treat autopilot data-labeling the same way they treat PHI processing: Special workstations, and special rooms ensure that you cannot copy/exfiltrate any data that you see, without it being noticed by the cameras that are recording you. I get that it's overkill, but if you prove you can't be trusted then we have to treat you like you can't be trusted.
@Bandopede
Жыл бұрын
I'll personally never understand why people freak out over being watched at work anyway, if you were doing your fucking job you wouldn't have time to worry about it.
@rrraewr
Жыл бұрын
Because it's a very very very slippery slope that ends in the wagie cagie. If you give micro managing control freaks an inch, they'll take everything.
@brainndamage
Жыл бұрын
Absolute highest level of security is only possible with no physical or network access possible. Networked systems could be hacked, offline systems could have data exfiltrated with mass storage drives or just taking pictures of the screen with a concealed camera. It would be much harder than just giving unprotected access.
@Uooooooooooooh
Жыл бұрын
@@Bandopedelol what am I even reading? What's not to understand? There's always assholes who will abuse every bit of freedom they have. Doesn't mean everyone else doing their job properly should like being monitored like toddlers. It's a very basic issue of trust. I'm not disagreeing with the original comment btw, since it seems to be such a widespread issue at Tesla they have shown they can't be trusted and need supervision like the mental toddlers they are
@Bandopede
Жыл бұрын
@@Uooooooooooooh Trust for WHAT? People aren't fucking trustworthy 😂😂 the average American worker doesn't DESERVE better treatment.
@Rico-iz8mb
Жыл бұрын
The Reueters/Router/OpenWRT joke KILLED ME and it was only the beginning XD
@Luminousplayer
Жыл бұрын
this is why the best protection will always be...putting tape over the camera lol
@ArDeeMee
Жыл бұрын
Literally hack-proof. =)
@sylviam6535
Жыл бұрын
Extend that to all your Internet connected devices.
@jort93z
Жыл бұрын
Will still be able to record audio.
@Starsdontcry
Жыл бұрын
I would disagree at an extent because you shouldn't have to worry about "company culture" in the first place as a customer if the company was not "collecting data". We are getting trained to assume that any equipment we buy that has a camera , a microphone, gps etc, these days is automatically spying on you. I am more concerned on the fact we become numb on giving up any sort of privacy for convenience.
@sebastiend.5335
Жыл бұрын
Duuuuuude! You rock on so many levels! Friggin' love your channeled anger! Greetings from the Netherlands
@El_K_Bron_Del_Moycas
Жыл бұрын
Videos like this make me love my old car even more every day.
@MrSkyentist
Жыл бұрын
This is actually interesting in another aspect. On any military installation, you can't have things like dash cams or recording devices. Tesla records data while driving and when someone gets too close to the vehicle if that mode is enabled. I kind of wonder if military installation are going to restrict Teslas on base in the future because of this. Certain smart watch functions like tracking runs with your gps are also not allowed in certain areas because of security restrictions.
@poptpil
Жыл бұрын
the 360 cameras were a unique tesla feature i was hoping to see on more brands in the future but not anymore
@banedon8087
Жыл бұрын
If I or any of my work colleagues did something like this (we deal with web filtering) we would either face a disclipinary/last warning or simply be sacked for gross misconduct. In any event, we'd also be reported to the ICO (Information Commissioner's Office) who would also apply fines, etc. to both our company and the individual involved.
@boumarc
Жыл бұрын
"What Happens in Your Tesla, Stays in Your Tesla" video recently posted on youtube's official corporate Tesla channel is quite unbelievable
@bobsquirrelking
Жыл бұрын
The fact that they are even able to just reach out and access the cameras is terrifying and should get Tesla sued into the ground. This sort of thing should require very upfront and obvious wording that cannot be skimmed over or misunderstood when the customer is signing, and it should also ONLY apply to video captured while the engine is running. The car should not even be able to send video from when the car is not running, and there is no reason to include location data for an AI. The only point of location data is to build a sort of map the car can use to supplement a substandard AI that can't properly figure things out otherwise. I already had decided to never buy a Tesla due to how terrible their support is for problems with the car, this makes me very happy with my previous decision. This is horrific. Edit: Okay, I forgot about sentry mode (because I never plan to get a Tesla I don't pay much attention to specific features like that), so it being able to record while parked makes sense. But again: it should be made plainly obvious what you are agreeing to, not lumped in with general ":sharing of telemetry" that literally every bit of software asks you to agree to. And regardless of privacy policies and agreements: Yeah, that culture is extremely toxic. What was it you have said (repeatedly)? That the companies are always accusing people of what they are doing? Have your lobbyists bring this up any time a company lobbyist tries to argue that 3rd party repair companies would misuse customer data.
@eligoldman9200
Жыл бұрын
I knew about this becuase a good friend of mine who works at Tesla told me. I’m surprised it took this long to get this out. I heard about this in 2020.
@zexx1lion
Жыл бұрын
I think there will be a comeback of LIDARs. Unrestricted access to camera feeds is an invasion of privacy by default. If a company swears to not do it again and there will be no leaks - it's not enough. Maybe LIDARS are too expensive now, but at least they don't produce life-like images.
@mondrian5620
Жыл бұрын
Tell ‘em Louis! This privacy shit is getting out of control and it’s only getting worse.
@jonintheredZ06
Жыл бұрын
This is why I buy older cars. There's no reason to pay the overinflated prices for these new "luxury" cars that are spying on you. Someone below commented they would disable the modem/router except I bet you every system will be tied into that soon and disabling the modem will brick the car, with the excuse given being along the lines of "it needs to be able to watch you for the safety systems to work." This is why my daily driver is a 2014 Fiesta ST with nothing having an external connection, even my GPS requires a physical SD card, and my fun car is a 2003 Z06 Corvette with no cameras and nothing that creates an outgoing connection. If you have an older car, keep it, fix it.
@MB1BUMPER
Жыл бұрын
They are not the only ones that watch us.I agree it’s atrociously wrong.This is why I have no cameras in my home or vehicle except on my camera phone which has a blocker cover for camera.
@MyName-tb9oz
Жыл бұрын
This is why I don't have a phone. That thing has so many ways of watching you it's ridiculous. Covering the camera just prevents one of the many ways it tracks you. There was a paper written a couple of years ago about using the sensors in a phone to see if you were intoxicated. It worked. They could tell in something like 20 feet of walking if the person had been drinking using the sensors on a phone in their pocket. That's just one of _many_ stories about capturing data using a 'smart' phone. Smart phone, dumb user.
@weneedmorefacemapsasprofil1593
Жыл бұрын
Well i mean, silly things caught on security cameras have been a thing for decades, same with creeps watching the foota- >in their garage Ah, forgot how current our year is.
@psychotictactoe
Жыл бұрын
Tesla owners: Im getting spied on!!! Musk: I dont care, im too busy grafting computers to mouses brains!
@SleepyFen
Жыл бұрын
If there was any justice in the world, those people should never be allowed to work more than a cashier job for the rest of their lives. Clearly the potential punishment from the gdpr appears too ephemeral for creeps
@cannaroe1213
Жыл бұрын
GDPR is a joke
@swagmuffin9000
Жыл бұрын
If there's ever a lawsuit and they lose (probably won't happen), they would get sued for so little that the problem won't go away, and people will continue to buy teslas and consent to what they are doing
@ErazerPT
Жыл бұрын
Back when i was at IT support, i'd very actively ask people, when viable and/or possible, to backup and remove any data they had on the machines before i worked on them. They mostly found it humorous and... never did it. That's how much they found me "not social", ie, "don't give two tweets about your stuff, just gonna fix it and move on asap". But some colleagues... they sure did get a deep icy stare when they tried to share something they "found". No one ever did it twice. But meh, pretty sure Tesla hired them based solely on their performance as label-monkeys without giving two tweets about their work ethics.
@DansplainingVideo
Жыл бұрын
“Your privacy is important to us. That’s why we took it from you.”
@nucleartime
Жыл бұрын
No expectation of privacy doesn't mean consenting to constant surveillance everywhere. It's one thing for a police car to read a license plate, it's an entirely different thing to install license plate readers on every single intersection and be able to trace every single car trip taken in an area.
@ElJosher
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@profusemoose1488
Жыл бұрын
There does need to be more than just a sense of shame, consequences need to exist.
@Andromeda103
Жыл бұрын
If spying and invasion of privacy like that is not illegal (and I'm pretty sure it is in some parts of the world), it should be. They shouldn't even have access to those videos. There is no reason to. Creeps.
@hideakiakio6698
Жыл бұрын
It is illegal it's against the Constitution but companies get away with it for reasons of "national security" even though if I remember correctly after 9/11 the thing where your phones spied on you was only supposed to be temporary and end once that war ended.
@AngryVet44
Жыл бұрын
@@hideakiakio6698 when you buy a product you sign their terms of service, that has nothing to do with the constitution and if we go back to the conservative Lochner era AGAIN. The constitution does not protect you from PRIVATE COMPANIES. that contract you sign by buying or being employed by a company will not be allowed to be disrupted by the US government in any way. FYI, red states are already rolling back child labor laws and children in this country are already getting hurt and dying at workplaces. “The Lochner era is a period in American legal history from 1897 to 1937 in which the Supreme Court of the United States is said to have made it a common practice "to strike down economic regulations adopted by a State based on the Court's own notions of the most appropriate means for the State to implement its considered policies".[1] The court did this by using its interpretation of substantive due process to strike down laws held to be infringing on economic liberty or private contract rights.[2][3] The era takes its name from a 1905 case, Lochner v. New York. The beginning of the era is usually marked earlier, with the Court's decision in Allgeyer v. Louisiana (1897), and its end marked forty years later in the case of West Coast Hotel Co. v. Parrish (1937), which overturned an earlier Lochner-era decision.[4] The Supreme Court during the Lochner era has been described as "play[ing] a judicially activist but politically conservative role".[5] The Court sometimes invalidated state and federal legislation that inhibited business or otherwise limited the free market, including minimum wage laws, federal (but not state) child labor laws, regulations of banking, insurance and transportation industries.[5] The Lochner era ended when the Court's tendency to invalidate labor and market regulations came into direct conflict with Congress's regulatory efforts in the New Deal””
@senbrisbane5352
Жыл бұрын
You know someone was murdered in front of a Tesla and they hid the footage and did not make the authorities aware of the evidence.
@whyarewehere3893
Жыл бұрын
New article link?
@weirdyoda04
Жыл бұрын
I remember one or two years back watching a Tesla presentation, and one of the presenters was talking about reviewing crash data from the cameras and he let out a little bit of excitement and I remember thinking it was offputting. Now I know why he got out a little bit of excitement.
@JodyBruchon
Жыл бұрын
No, the ability shouldn't exist on the first place.
@georgep370
Жыл бұрын
Horrible stuff! But the last 3 seconds of the video definitely made my day ! 😂
@donalddarbonne779
Жыл бұрын
I agree that privacy is more important to me than a status symbol.
@trieshardgaming
Жыл бұрын
Jesus. This is terrifying.
@elenabob4953
Жыл бұрын
Nope that is not that terrifying compared to what automatic vacuum cleaners pick-up or your phone camera.
@959_MC
Жыл бұрын
could you please apply a normalizer to your microphone, you tend to talk very quietly then burst out loudly in anger, meaning if a viewer sets their volume to a reasonable loudness to not blow their ears off, they won't be able to understand 90% of what you are saying
@Marco911
Жыл бұрын
Now think about Security cam manufacturers that force you into a cloud subscription
@davidburke1794
Жыл бұрын
I got stuck with backing up cell phones to migrate to a new device at my company. I was lucky that the tool used didn't allow me to see the data, just make a blob file and drop it on the new device. However, the senior managers didn't have proper company issued phones, and I had one that she had self made movies...omg, I will NEVER do that again. Didn't expect that from a female manager, but it was extremely disturbing and she walks around with that on a phone!
@soulmourne2698
Жыл бұрын
This is one reason why old cars are the better cars, without trash spying systems and trash scam payment services to unlock the hardware the car already has, not just that, in terms of built quality, old cars are much better than modern cars, much more reliable and easy to fix if mantained correctly.
@MetallicBlade
Жыл бұрын
And most can be paid-off quicker too.
@LiEnby
Жыл бұрын
Too bad they destroy the environment 😪
@Lorofol
Жыл бұрын
Why the fuck do Tesla Employees have access to customer recording data. Shouldn't this be encyrpted under the customer's account?
@jetlagged3645
Жыл бұрын
So uhh...Anyone want to start a co-op to build an analog car to get away from this dystopia?
@minorityofthought1306
Жыл бұрын
The aftermarket will take care of this. There will be workarounds devised that will simply replace the Tesla computer hardware. Or you could just buy a car that doesn't watch your every movement and is not connected to the internet. Old tech rules!
@mjc0961
Жыл бұрын
But I need to vote no on question 1 to keep my data safe, right auto industry lobbying organizations? As always it's the companies collecting the data who are the biggest risk than the third party companies and people we're told to worry about. Every accusation is a confession.
@mjc0961
Жыл бұрын
10:23 - Ooof, that awkward moment when China bans a US product over privacy concerns and turns out to be correct to have done so.
@LazerLord10
Жыл бұрын
Next car I get I'm just gonna find the antenna and cut the damn thing out if stuff like this becomes the norm.
@mr.anderson70
Жыл бұрын
Last summer (June 2022), Tesla laid off close to 300 people in the labelling department. I would seriously doubt any of those that were terminated would have done anything like this or made up any stories to throw Tesla under the bus.
@nettlesoup
Жыл бұрын
Nice idea. The trouble is, we've all encountered workmates who exhibit these tendencies to access private data without any self-control or regard for the other parties' right to privacy. I'm shocked, but I don't doubt that this happens. When you're concentrating on rapid growth and don't value customers' privacy enough to do basic monitoring and have regular reviews of data controls and employee behaviour, you end up with exactly the kind of workplace practice Louis is describing. It becomes impossible for one person who cares to raise the alarm internally because it's pervasive.
@pedrosmith4529
Жыл бұрын
Are they doing that in Europe? With our strict data protection laws, they would be fined into oblivion
@MetalMachine131
Жыл бұрын
The fact that the car continuously records is already illegal. If they are dumb enough to share that around as well, then Twitter will not be Elons biggest screw up this year.
@logitech4873
Жыл бұрын
@@MetalMachine131 How is continuous recording illegal? All dashcams work that way.
@fatihsaidduran
Жыл бұрын
@@logitech4873 It's not about the continuous scanning but more about the content being scanned (private life) and how the data is being handled. Personal data (children, people's geolocation, biomarkers) all touch such data privacy laws and require special treatment.
@manuel_the_q
Жыл бұрын
Meh. Can't say I didn't see this coming. That's why I cover all cameras on devices I own, including my phone. I know that any camera connected to the internet can be accessed by someone else other than me. I actively tell people to not purchase vehicles with internet connectivity for this very reason. Guess I was right; and, unfortunately, that means we as consumers all lose. (Hint: I know something will read this message before it even makes it to KZitem)
@ArDeeMee
Жыл бұрын
(+ KZitem filter algorithms)
@robertely686
Жыл бұрын
'If you do nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about'
@Redbikemaster
Жыл бұрын
Should only apply to government employees on the clock
@Vizeroy9
Жыл бұрын
You need written consent to record /photograph people in public places in Germany
@kindisc
Жыл бұрын
Louis, sell your tesla and buy a nice 2nd hand diesel truck. you know it makes sense......😋
@TLFaun
Жыл бұрын
World is slowly going into the cyberpunk era ... where people are watched and tracked every second of every day.
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