I dont know if it is a spoiler but... the game already have time travel in a way, if you concider the spy mission in lua.
@TheDsIEGE
5 жыл бұрын
Good point... Here I was hoping it would be the only instance of it, too... Fingers crossed, lol...
@fireali4005
5 жыл бұрын
It's more like black hole
@chadikhr7258
5 жыл бұрын
@@fireali4005 black holes don't take you back in time, more like they stop time for you inside the void so if you ever come out you will find your self billion years in the future but you can't go back in time
@harlisviikmae6240
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE Maybe it is more of a alternate reality where the lua is still in void. (like locations are already fcked in every time travel movie ever)
@FireCamp105
5 жыл бұрын
well considering you can't really control it and it's less of a time travel and more fo "this place has 2 states now which you can travel inbetween freely and won't affect anything besides that place"
@run4walk
5 жыл бұрын
It seems pretty simple what the paradox is, to be honest: we have 2 part of *the same timeline* playing out simultaneously. We have adult Tenno (after receiving his powers. Yes, *after*. I know he doesn't have them in the clip, but he tried to use them so he expected to have them, which he only could have expected if he lived the events of the Second Dream) gazing upon the Zariman 10-0 before it returned from the void, thus before the events of the Second Dream. The kid placed the Tigris, knowing exactly where it would need to be even looking at himself in the future 2 decades before any of this was going to happen. Since we're experiencing the time when the Zariman 10-0 was currently in the void, the Tenno might not have their powers yet. I don't think there's a set time on when during the void incident the Tenno got their powers, so it's acceptable that the Tenno are in the void, but not Tenno yet. And since old Tenno is living at a time before the Tenno were tenno, he can't have his powers. Looks like the young (presumably powerless) Orokin Children are going to have to help the old Tenno help the children get their powers, so that when the Orokin Children (now Tenno) can grow old to go to this split-time dimension to help them get their powers so they can become Tenno... so they can grow old to help their youngerself get their powers and become Tenno... again, but not again, because it's for the first time... again. Following? Me neither. Now, who wants an Ayatan horse?
@mr.mehican3227
5 жыл бұрын
run4walk so you believe its an infinite loop now?
@run4walk
5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.mehican3227 of course I can't say for sure, because we don't have much info, but it sort of makes sense seeing as the old operator exists at the same time as the Zariman Ten Zero. Probably some wibbly wobbly timey whimey stuff going on, which would lead to a cyclical loop: acting in the past, to allows us to get to the present, so that we can go into the past, to allow us to get to the present. I could be totally wrong about the logistics, but we've seen some things that cannot exist together existing together.
@allandecastroferreira9359
5 жыл бұрын
"all adults vanish in the void" what if this is the tenno from the present helping those adults overcome its fate, thus raising the number of tennos to counter attack the sentient beings on the war to come?
@TheSkittleKing
4 жыл бұрын
My little daxpony
@traemaxwell
4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.mehican3227 A paradox is a loop. Think about the movie The Terminator. Kyle Reese is sent into the past to protect Sara Connor , they copulate and John Connor is conceived, but John must remember to send Kyle back in time or he ceases to exist. Its call a Predestinational Paradox.
@mostlyjoe
4 жыл бұрын
Duvari is a cute way of pointing at the "Twin Paradox" of relativity. Time travel, yes. But only foward...at different rates.
@sycorps2658
5 жыл бұрын
7:43 they confirmed on a devstream that those people were the duviri, so its not just one being
@TheDsIEGE
5 жыл бұрын
But who are the duviri? Could they be a race the man in the wall is a part of?
@sycorps2658
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE it might be possible for him to be duviri, as long as they are situated in the void, that could be a pretty good guess
@bloodprince9779
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE IIRC they've been described to be imitators of the orokin or something, snippets of conversation in Fortuna indicate that they have massive amounts of wealth and stuff and act high and mighty and work using a system wherein a person's name usually indicates the job they will go into an IRL equivalent would be like someone named Taylor becoming a tailor. etc Also the Man in the wall has always been described as more of an omniscient being, a force of nature similar to gravity, who either is the personification of the Void itself or some god like being that simply lives there
@Phelan666
5 жыл бұрын
They are wrong. That's Mr Duviri himself.
@birbman5186
3 жыл бұрын
Oh dear g*d, another faction?? I mean I enjoy lore, don't get me wrong, but this sounds like another open world farm so far.
@archvile5869
4 жыл бұрын
PLEASE tell me we can ride the "horse" So I can be a proper cowboy with my limbo prime
@MrZylix-6
4 жыл бұрын
ARE. YOU. SERIOUS!? C’mon my dude! MESA is a literal Cowgirl, gunslinger!
@redreaper8652
4 жыл бұрын
Limbo is a British gentleman, Mesa would suit it better.
@grineersubtiliter6004
4 жыл бұрын
Guys, there won't be any Warframe.
@Nezha_Main
4 жыл бұрын
*mesa and limbo ridin into the sunset to fight eidolons.....*
@CocoLarge.
4 жыл бұрын
@@Nezha_Main both frames dont have anything to help with eidolons
@mike.villain
4 жыл бұрын
0:18 that animation is perfectly timed
@FrancisYorkMorganFBI
5 жыл бұрын
i don't think that the tenno were split into an ethereal part and human part. if it was true then the older version would have never had any void powers. meaning that he wouldn't have tried to use them against the dex. same if he somehow lost them after getting off the ship. but here is the important bit he did try to use a void beam. remember what cepheleon cy said during the void storm. "reality will twist and start to grow teeth". that statement would probably not only apply to the void storm but to it's origin the void itself. the new landscpae could have a bunch of reaity bending stuff in it. places where gravity is coming from a different direction,so you are forced to walk on the celling or places where you magicly age up and down depending on where you are right now. maybe even enemies that trigger such changes(kinda like that one demon in bayonetta that turns you into a kid)
@pancakes4552
5 жыл бұрын
MrZeldameister Actually the tenno looks like he becomes physical when he gets pardon me, yeeted out the warframe
@themarty2769
4 жыл бұрын
@@pancakes4552 The tenno is physical anyways, if they were anything else, Stalker going to Lua wouldn't be a problem in the first place. Also, yeet is an irregular verb. *yoten out the warframe.
@Grim-HEX
4 жыл бұрын
What if Limbo never screwed up up on his final rift leap and his actually involved in the Paradox
@AxVxI
5 жыл бұрын
There, in The Origin System, what lies in wait to be discovered is that “This is what you are, (a Tenno),” but it is not who you are, while what lies in wait to be discovered, in a FIFTH dimension, is that “This is who you are,” but it is not what you are. How is that for a Paradox?
@dietrichcusseaux2756
4 жыл бұрын
My theory is it's the story of how "STALKER" came to be!!! Hmmmm
@safirouhi1651
4 жыл бұрын
Don’t we already know?
@Karuiko
4 жыл бұрын
Stalker's backstory's been explained already
@dietrichcusseaux2756
4 жыл бұрын
@@Karuikoquestion: where, when; who is Stalker again?
@mistert2316
4 жыл бұрын
The stalker was the only one of Hunhow’s bodyguards that survived the start of the old war and he was made into a warframe, but without an operator
@Karuiko
4 жыл бұрын
@@mistert2316 He was an Orokin guard. If he was with Hunhow in the old war, then he wouldn't have such vengeance against the Tenno for slaughtering the Seven.
@tioalra6746
5 жыл бұрын
I think the adult tenno is giving the Young tenno His Powers, creating a paradox and hence the name
@Tarak55571
5 жыл бұрын
I believe, and have believed, that the nature of the void resulted in the lines between the human soul and body to be blurred. I think the Void made the Tenno into beings that were both physical and conceptual. Teshin has said that the void is a place of mind, concept, and thought, juxtaposed to our reality of body, earth and steel. I think the Zariman's void jump accident resulted in a bleeding of our physical reality into the void's conceptual reality, and that's the localle we're seeing in the Duviri paradox. A place, in the void, where our reality has bled and blurred into the void, the absence. I think it's entirely plausable that time doesn't... work there, in that place, not as we know it at least. It could simply be a 'time flows in both directions' or an 'events repeat themselves endlessly' or, perhaps that time simply flows in whatever way fits a story, it is a place of thought and concept after all. I think that the Older Tenno was literally witnessing a memory he'd lost in his time wandering that place, and perhaps that he, previously, had seen that he would need the weapon there in the future. I also believe that the Man in the Wall is a literal name, the man in the walls of the Zariman 10-0, not some void-born entity, but an adult, human mind driven to madness in that place. A ship cephalon, bound to the Zariman, and now, to all Tenno. I think the Inhabitants of the Duviri Paradox might be lost Orokin, or simply beings brought into existance as a direct result of the bleeding between our reality and the void. Beings literally created through the idea of them existing in the first place.
@tranxuanhuy8346
3 жыл бұрын
"What would happen if those 3.5b peoples suddenly reappear, there would be utter chaos" Hulk with the gauntlet on: Hold my beer
@cephalonsadistic9331
4 жыл бұрын
When any game releases a teaser with some strange name I always check the name itself to see if it holds a clue, and sure enough Duviri comes from a latin word(Duumviri) which means two men.
@kevinpaap2890
5 жыл бұрын
That’s a really refreshing new take on the idea My head is stuck on how we will transition from The New War to this exactly (assuming this follows the New War when it drops later in 2019) Just for speculation, I imagine the sentients are gonna be in the origin system for a while considering we’re getting a new tileset with the update. With that said, I imagine we will definitely interact with Natah again (whether we kill her or not remains to be seen). However, after that I do believe the Tenno will shift focus to Natah’s mother. And this is where Duviri Paradox will be set up I predict the Mother sentient will be too immense for any of our void powers to even damage. The Man in the Wall will then offer his services in some capacity and reach out to us, saying we must return to where it all began if we have any chance in defeating her. Given how the Man in the Wall has been affecting our minds, but not directly controlling us, makes me believe he is more akin to an entity like Loki from Norse mythology. A trickster but not inherently evil. I feel like we’ll be trapped in the Void Plane for a certain amount of time until we understand his reasoning for trapping us there, and eventually we’ll be able to cross between the void plane and the origin system at will, like any other open world released so far
@TheDsIEGE
5 жыл бұрын
I like this!
@supremegoat24
4 жыл бұрын
"drops later in 2019" this didnt age too well now did it
@kevinpaap2890
4 жыл бұрын
SupremeGoat “haha DElayed big brain” joke’s falling on deaf ears kid
@Kurai_69420
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the real paradox was the friends we made along the way
@arnas.ginevicius
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe like when shown in the trailer when the tenno was flying the railjack maybe something similar happened in the Zariman 10 zero?
@unknownatlas66
5 жыл бұрын
What I want is that Operator hair during the issue on the railjack.
@TheDsIEGE
5 жыл бұрын
You and me both... My tenno could use a new do...
@shoberinu2748
5 жыл бұрын
Same, I hope it comes with the nect mainline update, or at least with railjack.
@Nezha_Main
4 жыл бұрын
i hope they finally add hair that isnt emo, and is just "normal" or formal, i had to make a female charecter cause the only good hair i found went over the eyes x.x
@Nezha_Main
4 жыл бұрын
atm i found a compromise BE BALD
@animepabu5526
5 жыл бұрын
7:50 I didn’t even notice him
@trashpanda684
5 жыл бұрын
Firstly thank God I'm not the only person who thinks that throned dude (I'll just call him The Duviri) is The Man in The Wall. Secondly my personal theory is that it's more of an alternate universe scenario (not exactly that, but at the very least I see two alternate versions of your Tenno). Why does the older one behave like the one we've been with for so long, trying to void beam and not being aware of what's going on yet the younger one clearly has a clue and is even hiding a weapon for you, looking at you knowingly. I think there's been some sort of body swap between your Tenno and this older version of it, and why does it fade? Probably something of a dimensional shift, but who knows right now? Probably DE. Beyond that I haven't a clue. That's obviously the Zariman Ten Zero, no debate there. I think The Duviri's mask (who I'm seriously betting is The Man in the Wall) probably has a lot to do with whatever's happening to our Tenno. Also since we know this is an open world, I'm just gonna call it out and hope someone screenshots this for the future: Those giant Duviri Dragons are probably going to be the Planes of Duviri's "Eidolon" or "Orb", the World Boss, you know? We'll have to fight them because they're the big bad or something. Also The Duviri Paradox is probably the quest and update name while the Planes of Duviri is probably what the Open World itself is called. No matter what else happens, I'm standing by the predictions in this last paragraph until either a Devstream tells me otherwise or the update itself does in like a year from now. I also half-expect the Open World's quest to be the next cinematic quest after The New War but that could be a bit of a stretch, though it would make sense this time around.
@skxrri
4 жыл бұрын
I’m really excited to see where this goes, I agree with the body swap idea it makes the most sense, I hope at the end our operators will be aged up and retain their powers
@InnanetBaby
4 жыл бұрын
M8 it’s pretty obvious that the giant monster in the new open world is going to be like the orb or eidolon fight..definitely not worth screenshotting lol
@punipunipyo
5 жыл бұрын
Paradox, as in Flash Paradox, this is an alternative future, but your tenno kid, is helping the alternate future self fighting off the sentient overlords.
@CephalonBread
4 жыл бұрын
It is also possible that the tenno has been gone for years, and his void energy was slowly drained as he aged.
@SoulbreakerNB
8 ай бұрын
Glad I found your channel. We don't really have any lore content creators that much in warframe which is weird. 90% of warframe content creators are guide/tutorials and stuff.
@bryan0x05
5 жыл бұрын
food for thought, in Ember's Prime entry is mentioned no kids were brought on board as that would break code of conduct
@bahamutkaiser
4 жыл бұрын
I thought the Tenno always had a body, in the pod, moved to your orbiter. When you express yourself outside the ship, it's just an astral projection. That's why you exit your seat in the orbiter rather than manifesting when you transfer.
@kylekinnett6093
5 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure ita confirmed at this point that you start to age when you go into the void because the Tenno in their home
@gionharis13
5 жыл бұрын
That picture in the end are a picture of a new upcoming enemy faction (that's what DE say that one time God knows when)... Some say the new open world will be on the Void. Don't know how that works, but sure... Why not! Hope you hand get better surah Swazdo-lah tenno I see you in the Void
@yosup7400
5 жыл бұрын
The Duviri paradox IS the next open world. This was confirmed by the description of the DP trailer on the WF youtube channel.
@soulxtasy4318
4 жыл бұрын
Are we not curious when the tenno mentions something strange at the end of "war within"? Is the man in the wall you're parent? Cause he calls you kiddo so calming and he always watches you. Even the gineer queen picks on us about being abandoned(note the lotus is still taking care of us) so who abandoned us? Marglas?
@exitium1825
4 жыл бұрын
The worm ship is the one cy was talking about, which explains the railjack being part of the trailer. Maybe we’ll meet cy’s crew in the paradox idk
@indominusmoose6420
3 жыл бұрын
2 years later and I still have no idea what this is or that it even existed.
@yokai1235
5 жыл бұрын
one thing that a channel called VoidFissure pointed out is that the dex and the horse are just rust armors like everything organic disappeared or molded away like they are split in two worlds or tome lines and connected in some way
@lior13a82
5 жыл бұрын
I think that what we see here is the void messing with our heads, given it seems to be caused by that so called "void storm", or perhaps the void is showing us our future. For how the tenno can't use his powers, that might be because of the place he is in, or maybe because of his age. And his younger version, a memory.
@TheDsIEGE
5 жыл бұрын
Ohhh... I like that theory as well! I'm actually really excited to find out what's REALLY going on!
@thevisitor8906
4 жыл бұрын
wait a minute, there is not a clear option to know the gender of the tenno ¿what if a female tenno grows a beard?
@Nezha_Main
4 жыл бұрын
ever seen an Italian woman?
@makisajlovo
4 жыл бұрын
@@Nezha_Main ayy lmao u got me there.
@burningcoalsanimation9970
4 жыл бұрын
Actually the operator's faces change body type and gender
@thevisitor8906
4 жыл бұрын
@@burningcoalsanimation9970 I didnt notice that, I always thought the model was incredibly well made to look male and female at the same time
@monsieurg8256
4 жыл бұрын
The choice of the first face, in your operator's customisations, determines the sex.
@Saint01_Arts
4 жыл бұрын
Hearing destiny music in a Warframe video... I CANT BELIEVE WHAT IM SEEING!
@MykeThaOrphan0209
4 жыл бұрын
My theory is that when we enter the void storm it messes with the ships jump drive and makes us crash our railjack on Duviri. We leave the ship to investigate what’s going on and end up in a War Within type situation where we get our powers back over time but with one change we are in adult bodies instead our kid ones. Except this time we actually play through the incident where we got our powers, met the man in the wall, had to kill our parents etc. mix this in with us trying to find a way out of the Duviri paradox and meeting the people who live in Duviri and that’s basically the quest. At the end we unlock an operator only type open world.
@rose-hh7pu
3 жыл бұрын
this is an older video but i just went to onkko to turn in some sentient cores and heard the line "the future you will have" along with his other time travel/possible future telling related quotes and actions and lore and this combined with the duviri paradox possibly being in the PoE or something is very ... interesting
@CosmicOwlChild
5 жыл бұрын
I would love to have that conversation high as hell lol
@obviouslee8931
4 жыл бұрын
The zeriman was a colony ship. It was confused as a war ship, but was definitely a colony ship.
@doragonzukibo
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah for real, we have dialogue saying there was a school on board, why would a military vessel need a school
@raiduh899
4 жыл бұрын
I believe that the colored part is the past and the discolored part in the trailer is the present. The tenno is able to see itself and its roots through its vision and realizes it had put a weapon for itself there should it ever need to return to this place. They are not apart, its the same person but in different times.
@SubsonicH
4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think that the older version of the Tenno is if they weren’t put in the long dream, meaning that this new area is multiple timelines connecting eachother at multiple occasions, the void is a rift between the timelines and that is why the entire area where the Zariman is greyed out since it struggles to fit it in however it needs to be there for the void to exist. A perpetual loop so to speak. And that is why there isn’t much difference in terrain between young and old, because the area is frozen in time. And since the Tenno Were put into the long sleep, the void is switching between young and old, the same Tenno at different points in time. Hence why the Tenno is confused.
@trevorsamuels8392
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I hope this wasn't scrapped, when duviri was revealed it had a ton of people hyped but then it just disappeared as quickly as we saw it.
@doragonzukibo
3 жыл бұрын
It is in DEvelopment hell
@Rex_W
5 жыл бұрын
Little correction there for you. It's energy that cannot be created nor destroyed. Good video either way
@TheDsIEGE
5 жыл бұрын
More specifically, yes, you are correct!
@shadowfiend9660
5 жыл бұрын
Late to the party but, you're both correct. The conservation of mass came first, then energy and eventually what we now know as the first law of Thermodynamics.
@Silosilence
5 жыл бұрын
I like the way you think siege..I am glad D.E is gonna touch a bit more on lore. I don’t know much but I’m eagerly waiting on learning more.
@OnBrandRP
4 жыл бұрын
I personally think you need to look at it from a philosophical point of view. The Duviri (btw Duviri is Latin for Two Men) Paradox is going to take place in a alternate timeline, one where the sentients win, the only light is in the kids that have grown up and perished, however you will change that timeline by helping your counterpart survive and take down the sentients. So where's the paradox? By helping your other self, you create a paradox. If you help them win, you would of never had to go forward in time, and then you wouldn't be there to help them and so you wouldn't. This created the paradox. Now here's my own full headcannon: You accidentally went into the Tau system with the Railjack and you werenb't quite ready for it, so you got locked inside your own mind (As it's happened in the other expansions) and so you're seeing what your future could look like and you need to learn to accept how everything has happened, by seeing your older self you're trying to get through the 7 Stages of Grief: When Lotus leaves you go through SHOCK & DENIAL then you start to feel PAIN & GUILT afterwards you start to feel ANGER & BARGAINING when you help heal Umbra's pain, you're trying to tell yourself that by healing Umbra's pain you have healed your own, however as it shows later on you realize you're actually going through depression, reflection and loneliness. After she leaves again, and you get back to your ship and you have the conversation with Ordis you gain a new outlook on existence, and then Chimera Prologue begins and you realize there is going to be a New War and that you have to face THE UPWARD TURN, so you fight and train for the inevitable, RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH however there's one thing you cannot accept.. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE. You have lost yours, you can claim you still have it by distracting yourself with others problems but in reality you are a lost soul dealing with major depression and to make it worse, you're just a kid and puberty is going to nake it feel even worse than it actually is. So in the Duviri Paradox, the way to escape it is to remember Who You Are, WHta you come from and facing Acceptance and keeping real hope. Also the reason the adult Tenno cannot use his abilities is because it's been said that the Adults would become insane however the kids had a special way to control the void, and so I believe the reason he can't sue his abilities is something to do with being older, that or the new enemy is a asshole.
@Lonelysoul02
4 жыл бұрын
I figured the reason we are considered ageless is that we are affected by the Void's laws of physics, so it would stand to reason that us being pulled back into the void without a warframe tether would make us experience time in the void's standards. As our bodies are tuned to it's physics and not the origin systems, so we could age there but return close to the time we left with how it appears that the void is not one point of time but all mashed together.
@matt-dt1rs
5 жыл бұрын
sounds like stranger things, with ninjas.
@elsyee3457
5 жыл бұрын
YES EXACTLY
@Dredgen_Bantai
5 жыл бұрын
yes man I want something like stranger things in warframe(well this might be asking too much) as the Tenno have some troubled background story and we somehow land in a colony like cetus or any with loss of void power and as the story progress we will get them but stranger things esque way.
@famicom89
3 жыл бұрын
If that is the man in the wall, it should be"concrete evidence" as you said
@lordmorklen5166
3 жыл бұрын
ageing the operator up, giving them much needed combat abilities and movement upgrades - with the lore finished - an effort by the tenno to create a new order of things. basically, Warframe Phase 2. Honestly - Tenno need a major overhaul where they complement the frame and not gimp them. They have to be more than a void energy battery/gun for the warframe.
@appletea9344
4 жыл бұрын
Warframe with destiny music Ahh i see your a man of culture aswell
@kennethwilliams543
2 жыл бұрын
Ooooh he's so close a two year old speculation that still holds credibility
@netherbrine5902
3 жыл бұрын
This is no doubt another universe
@troygoins9791
2 жыл бұрын
After playing the new war. Safe to say that the older Tenno is the drifter
@maxtomchris
4 жыл бұрын
Thinking about this... What if rather than time-travel with us interacting with our past selves, we are rediscovering memories of our past self, or dreams about what could have been. The Tenno seem to have god-like power, but I've felt for a long time that the Tenno have the power to alter reality by their own actions. "Dream, not of what you are, but of what you want to be," instead of changing the past, we are altering the present. This could come out in multiple ways, but the way I think it will be... we're remembering our lives as adults - mixed in with fragments of the present - and directly experiencing them. Through our Tenno power we could be altering them, but not in the past, solely in the present are we altering them - the entirety of reality being altered to fit our choices, except for us and those like us. There is also the possibility that rather than the younger version of the Tenno being the current Tenno, but instead being the man in the wall. A final thought.... Lua spy missions utilize a warped type of time travel, where we travel between an era where everything works, and an era where everything is destroyed. But we don't exactly encounter any Orokin, or any people, only the technology. Perhaps that's the type of time travel that would be utilized in the Duviri Paradox in a way. Two states, a past and present, that seem clearly separated as such, however both seem to clearly exist in the present. (We don't seem to have any communication difficulties with Lotus/Ordis when we are in the past version of those Spy areas.) Additionally, the alternate timeline/alternate universe idea may also work strangely into this. Simply, the older Tenno attempts to use the void blast... this implies that this is the first time he's tried since he's been unable to use it. Rather... our younger Tenno suddenly coming into control of this older Tenno. The event taking place solely in the present. You mentioned in the video an idea of the current Tenno body not being the original body of the Tenno, and rather being the soul. So, what if we suddenly had re-awakened control of our body? This may also go alongside how the Corrupted are, beings who have lost their mind and body to the Void. What if our bodies are in a state like that, and during the Duviri Paradox we reawaken them? These factors could all fit together too... Our original bodies could be lost without our Tenno Soul, possibly in a situation akin to the Corrupted. Perhaps our presence would reawaken them to our control. And perhaps there is a time effect akin to Lua spy missions that separates our Tenno Soul from directly interacting with our Body.
@imperiumCirca41
3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion i think its the future for the tenno operative or perhaps,Engaging in a time loop of a land generated in a space of the void meant to be reminiscent to where The Zariman Ten 0 was
@climaxstriker
4 жыл бұрын
That seated figure is definitely the man in the wall. In our Railjack when we plugged the key into the reliquary drive, Wally had his finger bent down on his RIGHT hand. The seated figure's right hand is cybernetic. Given the existance of multiple railjacks, it's obvious that Wally didn't just lose one finger. With that in mind, I say that seated figure is the man in the wall.
@zeioinsanity7152
5 жыл бұрын
Dude on the chair was show on a dev stream to be a member of the Duviri, a inhabitant of the Plains of Duviri. Current speculation is that the Duviri where the Orokin Empire's upper middle class who hid in the Void when the Tenno decided to curbstomp the golden dick heads. When they popped out of their bolt holes they found themselves the current mega rich. Also about the Void, I was thought it was like the Warp from Warhammer 40k only less actively out to screw you over.
@berniegores3793
3 жыл бұрын
Knowing DE, they'll probably make a self-contained causality loop that coincidentally co-incides with the point the tenno get their powers. It'll help put more lore into their origin and be a new farm open world. Isn't the Tigris a tenno shotgun? Tenno weapons (as a faction) are mostly recreations of Orokin (Prime) weapons. Almost sounds like a Song of Storms loop, where you learn a song from someone to only teach it to them earlier in the loop.
@omar-rv5uq
4 жыл бұрын
here's what I think happened one day in Excalibur was doing a real Jack mission and for some reason they're transference ability wherd-of then it cuts to 20 years later where they've been separated from their Warframe lost their teno powers well then a younger version of themselves appears and plant a tigress because they know that their older selves might have been harmed.
@ardasavas3173
4 жыл бұрын
I think the younger tenno is the man in the wall and he is trying to help us.. I think
@eht___ne
4 жыл бұрын
Here's my theory: Unlocking the Paradox will require you to do a main lore quest. This quest will be unlocked by completing the Empyrean quest and some or all the railjack missions and possibly a specific gunnery or railjack rank. The mission will begin with you going on a railjack mission to investigate because the operator feels a dream/vision or connection there. During the mission, you find portal/rift in the void that you go in and transference fails, and you're ripped from your warframe, and you melt through the railjack like you're thin air. You then wake up in the Paradox. This paradox makes you older, cuts your communication to outside the paradox, and also keeps anything that isn't void energy from entering, but also keeps void energy from being used, as it is absorbed into the void before it can be created, so the tenno cannot use their void powers while in there, like how kryptonians powers are activated after leaving krypton. You then see the Zariman Ten Zero, and then are attacked by what looks like a dax soldier who is somehow sentient as well. You then see what seems like a memory of you hiding a weapon in a hole. You then pull it up and use it to kill the sentient dax soldier, and then rid his horse to investigate the Zariman Ten Zero
@JojoTheVulture
3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that something leads to the paradox, and the paradox locks is in a time bubble outside of the main reality. In doctor who, there are 2 examples of a paradox where the characters are locked in an area outside of regular time. One story with the 9th doctor and one with the 11th. Ofc warframe doesn't operate on doctor who logic but it's a theory so idk.
@necruo7724
3 жыл бұрын
ill be glad if they relase the fucking update before i get midlife crisis and im not even adult yet
@coffeeaddiction9937
2 жыл бұрын
Imma explain it in the simplest way i can. I think the duviri tells us more about the drifters story. I could be wrong. Idk. We start learning gun skills and stuff like that. Remember the drifter held the nataruk in its hand. I feel like we´re about to learn more about the drifters story and not the operator this time. EDIT Edit: i hope someone sees this
@digitalberry716
2 жыл бұрын
I did:)
@KennethV2000
2 жыл бұрын
We got a new trailer for the Duviri Paradox yesterday and it's coming soon
@wendigowithaninternetconne9594
2 жыл бұрын
The girl in the opening cinematic is a drifter she has somatic links and brings the operator back
@nanounevermore9290
4 жыл бұрын
I haven't played warframe in a while but I love the sepiks redux OST you put over this great video
@TheDsIEGE
4 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you! That remix is incredible...
@petrovsim
4 жыл бұрын
Actually, Mater can be created and destroyed as it is a closed string of energy. For more info, check the M-theory also known as the String theory
@bladeguardkraken9741
4 жыл бұрын
After the heart of deimos story quest , I came back to this thinking what if the heart has more to do with the Tenno than just the warframes , maybe it gets shut down for good and we lose our powers and that’s why the Tenno couldn’t fire his beam .
@DGEddieDGEtm
3 жыл бұрын
I just found this vid... and the lore presented in the Heart of Deimos and the Necraloid chamber has some plus info presenting/foreshadowing the Duviri Paradox, and I really hope we are getting that before we age to nothingness...
@deadrunners5937
5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that in the universe where those 3.5 billion were legally dead, they never popped back up again. A second, branching timeline was created where only one force was destroyed and one other person died, leaving the population of that planet to decrease by one. It wouldn't be chaos because the 3.5 billion *never vanished* in the new timeline, as those who traveled back stopped the 3.5 billion deaths before they happened.
@LeaderoftheFates
5 жыл бұрын
The void I believe is basically a reality of its own where time and space are bend and warp so I think what happens the older Tenno was trapped in the void until he was aged up and the going Tenno was a glimpse into the past hiding the tigres
@Enderplays12
4 жыл бұрын
Matter cannot be created or destroyed is a partially correct sentence. Energy has those properties, HOWEVER, since you can extract a fix amount of energy(E) from an atom (fission--->mc2) you can convert energy into matter and vice versa. I'd say it's not the tenno's body, but really the future/past tenno interaction, since they are in a way indeed, pure energy. Now here comes the kicker: Since energy itself barely carries mass, time dilation would be viable for the tenno, not as a time travel method, but a time acceleration. Maybe the tenno gets stuck in the void, and since its energy derives from it, the energy turns into this time dilation force, and wears out the innate energy the tenno have (no more laser hands). Just my theory.
@andrewjackson5295
3 жыл бұрын
Question: What exactly is the duviri paradox? Me: something we'll never get
@bruhmoment7424
4 жыл бұрын
1 year ago and and it’s been completely forgotten. Have I missed something?
@oorcinus
4 жыл бұрын
Tenno aren’t ”spiritual beings” or bodyless souls. Their bodies are very much alive, sitting in the transferrence chair, aboard the orbiter. The body you see on the field is a projection that normally resides ”within” the warframe. The tenno in the trailer is likely the actual, physical body, and the time travel is probably the consequence of the void rather than the tenno being some kind of an ethereal being unbound by time.
@MarCoViTV
4 жыл бұрын
The man in the wall is a demon per-say he gifted the children with power as he drove the adults insane... but in exchange for something... Rell was the only Operator who remembered... and didn’t sleep... the second thing is the man in the wall is looking for a host into the Tenno world and he can possess a warframe the same way an operator can... and he’s the biggest threat to the living universe... and if my assumption is correct pieces of him are what rail jacks use to travel through the void
@kristoferhorninghorning9747
5 жыл бұрын
I think your right just add the imortal soldier experiment considering. The zarimin was a military ship with no children just grown ups who were the experiment. Came back as children. XD your so right about so much.
@Maverickun
4 жыл бұрын
In the avengers part, im pretty sure earth wasn't reduced to half, it was more or less considering thanos said half of all life in the "universe"
@apanmarius
4 жыл бұрын
maybe you're right about the part of the physical and the void counterpart being separated. maybe the man in the wall, the void itself, is trying to kill the physical and after that he can take over the void counterpart or something like that.
@neonsolace2748
4 жыл бұрын
Just realized that this dude right there probably got a relation rell somehow and he's definitley one of the zariman kids that can age because its rumored that the kids who didn't escape the zariman before it crashes into the duviri paradox are kept wandering aimlessley and is also rumored that place got some kind of force that makes them age and losen thier void powers whenever they're in it And the dude we see right there probably got out somehow and returned thats why he's surprised he can't use his void powers as soon as he's in trouble and those orokin horse riding things are some kind of being ordered to eliminate most of the remaining children for vague reason
@RazulLD
4 жыл бұрын
Actually the void is a place where past present and future exist simultaneously. It was proven in a sense with The Second Dream the voices on the moon were moments from the past showing. The Plains of Duviri are a place in the Void that's why the Zariman 10.0 (Tenn.O) is there. There is a good chunk of good info in your theory but I think its not the full picture. I remember that in the past DE tried to explain why we can see Alad V in both forms, why we can kill the same boss over and over again, its because we kill them in different dimensions, which means that the other Tenno are in a way different protagonists in an alternative universes from ours and we are all jumping from universe to universe every mission while doing effects on a major universe, its like splitting a thread to a minor ones before uniting it again after you finish the mission, this is why a failed mission do not directly harm the universe there are minor and major events in the universe. The events in the past where we shaped the outcomes are like that those events gave permanent scars on the universe while minor ones remained as they never happened or did little like a footnote in history. In Warframe you have both a destiny to follow and moments when you can change things, the void is the mirror image of our world and we go there in order to travel to a different place like we are splitting reality in order to gain things from it and then stitching it back together. Remember that we already have different universes with different outcomes - the consoles. They split away from our universe and now they are a universe of their own.
@snubbe0930
5 жыл бұрын
It could be time travel, if the Void operates similarly to paradox space outside of sessions in Homestuck. Basically, Time and Space in Paradox Space is really. Fucking. Weird. Like, for example, tomorrow was yesterday, and 500 years from now is in two seconds, and last week is right now. Confused? That's Paradox Space. The space-time in Paradox Space, stretches, overlaps, and falls in on itself in ways it normally never would anywhere else. What I'm suggesting is, that yes, the cut scene may take place in the past. Yes, the cut scene in the Railjack takes place in the present. And yes, they both take place simultaneously. Chew on that one.
@mr.mehican3227
5 жыл бұрын
During tennocon didnt Steve say to pay attention to the name Duviri? I know its latin but idk what it translates to
@TheDsIEGE
5 жыл бұрын
I saw that too, and I found some interesting info on it regarding the corsican language. I plan to put out a video on this in the very near future.
@mr.mehican3227
5 жыл бұрын
TheDsIEGE i think your idea for a multiverse might be correct, onkko talks about a multiverse existing in warframe. Also if i remember correctly, in ember primes codex entry it says that there was no children on the ship because "its against protocol" and like you said, its a military ship correct? So why would children be on it in the first place? That makes no sense. So therefore the children appeared after the jump, not before
@TheDsIEGE
5 жыл бұрын
Oooooooooo.... Good points there!!!
@Frosty-kz4om
4 жыл бұрын
We know from certain parts of the lore that not all of the Tenno chose to be put into stasis by the Lotus. What if this is a timeline where our Tenno didn't either?
@r1vynn
4 жыл бұрын
Due to void energy, the operators can't age. But in the plains where this takes place, they aged. Proof of this is how the aged-operator's void powers didn't work. I don't think it's time travel. I think the setting where this takes place makes void energy almost in a null state. I think him seeing past Operator was just him remembering. Which would explain the color. It was a memory.
@mauishd
4 жыл бұрын
That island I’m pretty sure is a rail jack that the Tenno was on before he got sent to what ever plane of existence he’s on just the railjack has been warped by time and started to grow out
@alexbotz8335
4 жыл бұрын
The Albrecht logs from Heart of Deimos seem to reinforce your theory. Duviri hype!
@Qrdez
4 жыл бұрын
Normal "Tenno body" siting in Orbiter, obviously...
@kiwiluiz
4 жыл бұрын
I think that we are the cause of the 10-0 accident and created ourselves as the Tenno. That is a paradox
@traemaxwell
4 жыл бұрын
The Void is beyond Time and Space. Time has no meaning there.
@username4702
5 жыл бұрын
You can tell the difference between the past and the future in the paradox. Color is the past and black and white is the future
@AlexeiX1
3 жыл бұрын
To me this feels like they were attempting to make a pvp battle royale kind of thing, disconnected from the main game, so you would be an adult operator scavenginf stuff etc etc
@drdowner4416
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting and well thought out theory, but Rell's state does disprove this theory as it was mentioned that without the tenno cryopods, the tenno are still able to age
@sinfulmourning2780
4 жыл бұрын
That's why I dislike this guys theories. He starts off good, assumes something that has pretty much been disproven and ends up using that incorrect fact to base the rest of the theory on. Hell, he said the mask the tenno wears is probably from Cetus, but it's way way different than the paper masks we get there.
@kari548
4 жыл бұрын
You're onto something, recently heard that Steve said it's based off the twin paradox, so there would have to be two versions of the operator. The void self and the material.
@honestmistake8167
3 жыл бұрын
bro its been two years since this shit was announced and they haven't said anything about the Duviri Paradox
@Kravenrogue
4 жыл бұрын
That Chatacter looks a Lot like The Warframe predecessor game, Dark Space
@nadimsaouli6013
3 жыл бұрын
Yo it’s almost 2021 and it’s still not out yet 😭
@notcodyanimations4202
4 жыл бұрын
The portals on lua spy missions seem to support this in my opinion
@DeForteprotze
4 жыл бұрын
i have this weird feeling that this is a way to turn your tenno an adult, you're stuck in whatever world Ten-zero is at, you invisticate and yet again get your powers back after confronting your past
@vukkulvar9769
3 жыл бұрын
But do people want their tenno to age ?
@doragonzukibo
3 жыл бұрын
@@vukkulvar9769 some people are just waiting for them to be legal
@abyss7378
3 жыл бұрын
What if the man in the wall is a future version of tenno which is why he calls us hey kiddo if he's close to us?
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