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@sailaab
8 ай бұрын
Chloe bhai🙇🏻♂️, lota and lots of prayers and good wishes for you to see this procedure through AND have a timely, *COMPLETE* recovery to good health.. soon after. Much appreciate your grit, determination, passion to stick with us via these documentary productions and yes.. you are indeed the kind of enthusiast who can liven up stories fro. The weirdly risky 'checkered board' approach at Kai Tak and associated stories from back then.. to the (often) never made it in the public domain.. of travels into difficult airports like Paro International Airport, Tenzing-Hilary Airport, Lukla , Madeira Airport, Congonhas Airport and so on. So yes indeed, would be great to have to connect with some those who have flown in and out of those.. to get some chilling and thrilling stories. . Once again, much appreciate the personal engagement you have in trying to soaking in the stories you narrate and ve one with them. Please do keep us updated on your health regimen, recovery.. from time to time.. if okay. . Affectionate love and blessings from Poona (near Bombay).
@RalphEllis
8 ай бұрын
The problem was the B.oeing 737. You CANNOT have a warning that has two meanings. And you cannot have something this urgent, that does not trigger the master warning. The problem is that when you are in the simulator (twice a year), this warning is ALWAYS the take-off config warning. Every other aircraft would have given clear warnings, that this was a pressurisation fault. But not the 737. R
@rudybriskar5267
8 ай бұрын
Welcome back! Subscribed for at least a year. I've scrolled back and watched the older videos after I watched all of the videos from 2022 and 2023.
@skeetrix5577
8 ай бұрын
This tragedy is what got me interested in air disasters. Glad you covered it
@jtjames79
8 ай бұрын
What's with all the beeping and buzzing like it's some sort of McDonald's kitchen? Audio warnings should just say what the error is. What century are airliners even in?
As always, thank you for your service in the remembrance of the victims.
@CatOperated
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this.
@LemonLadyRecords
8 ай бұрын
Ty, I always read over them. So not forgotten. So many young people on that flight! Off to an exciting holiday or on to visit relatives, but never made it. ❤
@zedfourme5085
8 ай бұрын
Gay
@brigidsingleton1596
8 ай бұрын
💔😢Rest In Peace poor lost souls.😢💔
@kaaz1010
8 ай бұрын
I have watched hundreds of films and videos on air disasters... This one made me actually cry, one sole survivor trying his best in a hopeless struggle. Call me a crybaby... This breaks my heart
@SatanicBunny666
8 ай бұрын
Another very well done video. What's always bpthered me about this case is the timeline: I've seen some comments (in fact I think it may have been speculated in the air crash investigation episode on this, but it's been a long time since I saw it) that the reason the flight attendant only came into the flight deck so late is that he was uncouncscious for some time, and only regained consciousness some time before making his way into the flight deck. This however does not sit right with me. Like, I'm no doctor, but far as I know brains deprived of oxygen do not just pop back online unless oxygen is introduced, the body is trying its hardest to protect the brain from damage by keeping it offline. That, plus the fact that if the man was conscious the whole time, him being a flight attendant and knowing full well what's going on as well as having some flying experience, I think he would have tried to get in sooner. And there could have perhaps been a slim chance he could have done something had he gotten in there sooner: Had he managed to get to the flight deck at an earlier phase, switch over to the captain's oxygen mask and communicate with ATC or Helios crew, there's a chance they could have talked him through the phases of configuring the autopilot of the planbe to allow him to land. He cannot bring the plane down safely himself, but with proper assistance a man with some flying experience could have done it given the required advice from a pilot on the ground. I know this because a while back the youtuber Tom Scot and the actual passanger jet pilot from the channel Mentour Pilot went on an actual flight training simulator and ran tests: with a headset on, the Pilot was not able to tell him how to land _without an autopilot_. But with the use of the autopilot, he was able to bring the plane to a stop that, while bumpy and not perfect, would have been survivable. This is all extremely theoretical and has obviously never been done in real life, but it's the only way in which I think this crash could have been avoided after the pilots passed out. But he was too late, and it bothers me to no end that we don't know why. I do however have a theory: him not getting to the flight deck ASAP seems to fall in line with him losing consciousness and regaining it later, but the grim thing here is I think he regained it because someone provided him with oxygen. Since not all the passangers were wearing their masks, I think the most plausible (and quite harrowing) secnario is that someone figured out themasks only last for awhile, and remained concscious by using the unsued masks of other passengers. Then, somehow managed to get a mask to Andreas, who then grabbed one of the spare ozygen supplies and headed to the flight deck. It's a strecth, but it's the only tehory so far that in my heads fitts with the super long delay between the depreassurization of the plane and him opening the flight deck door. Having been oxygen deprived for long at that point, it's likely he wasn't operating with all of his wits about him, aand anyway at that point it was too late to begin with. Still trying his hardest though is an admirable feat in the fac of certain doom, never surrender. Anyway, that's enough of me rambling on. Thanks for the video Chloe and best of luck with the surgery, I've been through several myself to help me deal with a host of issues, and while they're never super-pleasant, the surgeons these days are great, so just take it easy and take your time to recover, you'll be fine!
@alexgomes8351
8 ай бұрын
Hi Chloe, just love your content and manner in which you details everything. You Rule. Thank you
@Mt.Dwezzy
8 ай бұрын
Glad you and wtyp did deep dives into this accident
@brivonn1580
2 ай бұрын
I hope there will never be an incident like this flight ever again! It's so sad, tragic and scary to know and realize that this (a ghost plane) has happened! That man was a true hero diverting that plane away from a highly populated area, it costed his life and everyone on board sadly, but he saved MILLIONS of lives!
@speedbird9313
Ай бұрын
He didnt divert, the aircraft banked after engine 1 flamed out.
@crazywarriorscatfan9061
8 ай бұрын
Hauntingly fantastic video. A little detail, whether intentional or not, was the music at the beginning. I'm fairly certain it's from one of BOTW's divine beasts, and in those soundtracks there's a faint SOS that's barely noticeable, with the champions sending them out with no one to hear it. Rather similar to Andreas' calls
@speedbird9313
8 ай бұрын
Pressing the transmission button helps..
@jackmonaghan8477
8 ай бұрын
Some suggestions for future vids: Northwest Airlink 5719 2008 Mexico City Learjet crash Hughes Airwest Flight 706 Superga Air Disaster Turkish Airlines 981/AA 96
@topspot4834
8 ай бұрын
So good, LOVE the newer, longer format Chloe ... KZitem algo could take awhile to reward you for your effort, but quality over quantity will eventually payoff for you. Excellent job!!
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
I appreciate your comment. Thanks :)
@rogerrendzak8055
8 ай бұрын
Who's Chloe?? That's a feminine name. But, the voice is male.
@GuyNamedSean
8 ай бұрын
@@rogerrendzak8055She's trans. Not sure what her personal reason is (she could have a variety, but it's a common choice among voice actors) but she doesn't seem to focus as much on voice training. There's a few videos where you can see her.
@rogerrendzak8055
8 ай бұрын
@@GuyNamedSean Her?? You mean him?? What kind of pride is there, if you're not at least, looking gay?? Like a normal, gay couple. Confusing, ain't it🤔⁉️
@xochixat_5285
8 ай бұрын
@@GuyNamedSean i didn’t know chloe was trans! that’s amazing ❤❤❤
@supermanpapastalin
8 ай бұрын
One of the F16 pilots had a voice recording where he was screaming "the plane is falling ITS FALLING". You can really feel for the guy watching a plane become a coffin.
@RahulRk-tr7ot
4 ай бұрын
Yeah. The Fighter pilot recording is available in "Real horror" channel. I saw that video.
@dws84
3 ай бұрын
Interesting
@Nicholas-Borg.
3 ай бұрын
is there a video somewhere where i can have a listen
@ZombieSazza
8 ай бұрын
God it kills me that Andreas managed to get to the cockpit and was controlling the aircraft, but nobody heard his Mayday calls. He’s a hero, instead of the craft crashing into the city he got her away from any populated area, he saved more lives than he’ll ever know in his last selfless act
@dfuher968
8 ай бұрын
I have always wondered, why the F-16s or ATC or such didnt try to tune a radio into the frequency for Cypruss, once they saw some1 in the cockpit, yet were unable to get an answer on the Athens frequency.
@somethingsomething404
8 ай бұрын
@@dfuher968aren’t all aircraft supposed to monitor GUARD (the international emergency frequency)
@somethingsomething404
8 ай бұрын
@@dfuher968I suspect they didn’t want the plane to land at that point. Hundreds of brain dead people… that’s almost worse than everyone dying. Not to mention what do you do with that aircraft after, if it’s just a switch in the wrong spot, you’d keep flying it right? Horrifying thought to be on a plane that killed hundreds
@N1clasBerg
8 ай бұрын
he’s NOT a hero. he sat there using the oxygen supplies for 2 hours before it occured to him to enter the cockpit. really?
@user-xu2pi6vx7o
8 ай бұрын
@@N1clasBergYou have no right to say this, since you have no idea what happened on board. Maybe he didn't actually know the cabin code and spent all that time looking for it in whatever paperwork they had.. His fiancé was onboard, he most definitely spent time trying to save her. Maybe he got in earlier and, recognizing that he can't land the plane, tried to wake up one of the pilots. You don't know, so it's asinine for you to blame him.
@lindsayschmidt2177
8 ай бұрын
For some reason this accident haunts me in a way that most other airline accidents do not. The idea of a ghost plane is absolutely terrifying.
@MrGeirPaulsen
8 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@kamelenka
8 ай бұрын
this one and the air france AF447 disaster
@marksmith402
8 ай бұрын
This is one of the saddest accidents/ scenarios I've ever heard....All of those people.... This is the first ive heard of it, only the Payne Stewart incident before.
@hectornecromancer5308
8 ай бұрын
To make this crash even more disturbing. The exact circumstances happened on this flight had already happened 6 years earlier on Learjet 55 that killed Payne Stewart
@terdsie
8 ай бұрын
Hey, if you're gonna go, I can't think of an easier way than simply falling into a hypoxic sleep.
@lunayoshi
8 ай бұрын
I've heard one of the reasons Andreas was able to stay conscious so much longer than everyone else was because he was supposedly very fit and liked to hike or some other activity that improves lung capacity. It might have meant he lasted long enough to grab an oxygen tank before he got hypoxic. Great video, as always, Chloe. You can revisit these any time because they're always entertaining, revisions or not. They don't happen often, but ghost planes fascinate me.
@samuelmatheson9655
8 ай бұрын
he'd also recognize what was going on
@Shatyice420
8 ай бұрын
He might share blood with Nepalese Sherpas, who have a unique blood makeup that allows them to summit Everest without oxygen tanks while avoiding hypoxia. That can explain why he was still conscious
@speedbird9313
8 ай бұрын
He had portable oxygen right next to him, that helps😉
@lunayoshi
7 ай бұрын
@@speedbird9313 True, but it (apparently) didn't help the rest of the flight attendants that passed out.
@speedbird9313
7 ай бұрын
@@lunayoshi No, that is really strange actually🙄🤔
@britbongtankie
8 ай бұрын
When Andreas made that final turn before impact, he likely saved the lives of several people on the ground. May he rest in peace.
@speedbird9313
8 ай бұрын
The aircraft banked left when engine #1 flamed out..
@Edelweiss1102
7 ай бұрын
@@speedbird9313He made turns AFTER the engine ran out. But random dudes on the internet always know better.
@speedbird9313
7 ай бұрын
@@Edelweiss1102 No, the official accident report with statements from the fighter pilots actually knows better, if muppets like yourself only would bother to read it..
@retrowoohoo468
8 ай бұрын
I remember watching an Air Crash Investigation regarding this case. I had a thought Andreas in his barely conscience knew the plane wasn’t going to make it and will crash into Athens. He managed to steer the plane away from city and ended up crashing into mountains.
@LT.SeaGull
8 ай бұрын
Not to nitpick but at that low altitude he was probably recovered from the hypoxia already.
@pensivelyrebelling
8 ай бұрын
I’ve seen this suggestion that he steered the plane to avoid casualties on the ground. He was clearly not doing well based on the final transmission, so maybe he didn’t feel confident he could land the plane in his weakened state.
@planescaped
8 ай бұрын
One can only assume the flight attendant took so long to get into the cockpit because he had passed out at some point, but managed to somehow come to.
@AdrianColley
8 ай бұрын
My theory is that he was trying every possible combination at the door lock.
@yeos_angel_
8 ай бұрын
That was my thinking
@dubstepsquid31
8 ай бұрын
That or I also thought maybe since autopilot was flying the plane, he figured the pilots were still in control.
@alanm8932
8 ай бұрын
@@dubstepsquid31cabin crew must have enough training to know that if the oxygen masks drop, they have 12 minutes to get down to 10,000ft. That's usually a fairly dramatic descent that you're going to notice. If they hadn't initiated a descent within 2 minutes I'd at least be asking the purser to contact the cockpit & find out why they're not descending. Obviously they should be busy but by 2 mins, they should be descending unless they are flying over Mt Everest.
@NickyBlue99
8 ай бұрын
The slow loss of oxygen probably made the people on the plane hypoxic over such a long time, that when the masks fell the pilots didnt know what to do with them. @alanm8932
@kellylingro3288
8 ай бұрын
The concept of a ghost flight is so chilling. There's something about planes continuing on autopilot that feels both tragic and terrifying.
@wokewokerman5280
4 ай бұрын
so true, and then for one person, someone who could have gained access to the cockpit, reset the altitude to say 10,000, and then worked to get comms up. Why that did not happen is a total mystery... the 737 on a normal day is just not that hard to fly.....
@Pippis78
8 ай бұрын
It makes it worse that one person was awake and knew what had happened and would happen next. No peaceful death for him. But perhaps he stopped an even bigger tragedy from happening if the plane had crashed into a populated area.
@MightyMoon1
8 ай бұрын
Poor Andreas. He was all alone surrounded by dead people (his girlfriend being one of them) and those were his final moments. That’s ridiculously terrifying. The fact that he was able to steer the plane away from a populated area and was still thinking that clearly is amazing.
@speedbird9313
8 ай бұрын
Sorry to tell you, but that last part is only found in wikipedia and certain youtube videoes😕 You should read the official accident report.
@jess_lol4579
26 күн бұрын
@@speedbird9313if he kept in on its programmed flight path it would of crashed into the centre of athens. causing ground casualties
@speedbird9313
26 күн бұрын
@@jess_lol4579 No it wouldnt, the holding pattern of flight 522 was not close to being over central parts of Athens. And it stayed in its holding pattern untill engine #1 flamed out and disconnected the autopilot.
@TheCondoInRedondo
8 ай бұрын
Even if the pilots had "muscle-memoried" the checklist when it came to cabin pressurization, the problem is that you're supposed to alternate between "AUTO" and "ALTN" with each flight to exercise both of the independent pressurization computers all the time. I.e., if the switch was left in AUTO from the previous flight, you're supposed to use ALTN for the next flight and vice versa. You don't just leave it in AUTO for every flight. This protocol is to ensure that a failure of ALTN doesn't go undetected, such that a later failure of AUTO yields a surprise when you switch to ALTN only to discover it's broken, too! This protocol is supposed to be part of the airline's "flight manual". My point is that a competent 737 pilot would have sought to switch from AUTO to ALTN or from ALTN to AUTO, in which case he/she would have discovered the switch positioned to MANUAL.
@sage5296
8 ай бұрын
This is probably also just to make sure you interact with the panel, as it's much harder to "look without seeing" when you have to actually interact with the object in question
@TaeruAlethea
8 ай бұрын
This is a good process change to better prevent mistakes and undetected failures.
@abebuckingham8198
8 ай бұрын
I think in general if you skip something that's on the checklist three times you're probably a terrible pilot regardless.
@alanm8932
8 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the procedure won't be as you say. If it were then on every other flight, where Altn was selected, there would be no automatic selection of a backup if a failure occurred. I guess you would have to realise there is a fault and then select Auto so that the primary pressurisation computer can take over. (Or select manual, which would make no sense when you presumably have a good primary to use). I believe the swapping of primary and Altn channels on each flight is done inside the unit each time power is cycled and it doesn't even appear to indicate to the pilot which channel it is considering to be primary and which is Altn for any particular flight. You always select auto. There is always an automatically selected Altn channel. The system is (invisibly to the pilot but they are told in the manual that it is doing it) using a different channel as primary (& the other one as Altn) each time the power is cycled so that you can't have a faulty channel and it go unnoticed.
@beenaplumber8379
8 ай бұрын
What is ALTN? The procedure you describe sounds like a great way to prevent this. Was that procedure in place at the time of this accident? Was that procedure part of your company's ops manual (you sound like a pilot), and maybe not part of Helios' manual?
@DC-10sBiggestFan-ug1vc
8 ай бұрын
Another quality video. It's extremely tragic what occurred on this flight. Imagine being the flight attendant, and you see the fuel run out, and you can't do anything to stop it, or save the lives of anybody else on the plane, not even yours.
@freddiecunningham2860
8 ай бұрын
Screw that I'd get on the controls and try something
@DC-10sBiggestFan-ug1vc
8 ай бұрын
@@freddiecunningham2860 With no knowledge on how to fly that plane? people who know a ton about flying an aircraft can't land a commercial plane. Now imagine that, but you trying to fly and land a plane, and without even having ATC to help you, and no fuel. It's just not going to work.
@N1clasBerg
8 ай бұрын
@@DC-10sBiggestFan-ug1vcnot true. there were instances, although tbf quite a few, that a regular person would be able to land a plane, with the help of the ground telling them what to do
@N1clasBerg
8 ай бұрын
@@DC-10sBiggestFan-ug1vcthere was enough fuel to fly for 2 hours, when the flight attendant could make 2+2 together and try to communicate with the cockpit or enter it
@DC-10sBiggestFan-ug1vc
8 ай бұрын
@@N1clasBerg Did you watch the video? He was tunes in into nicosia ATC, which meant he couldn't get help from them, and he wouldn't know to change the frequency.
@purplegalaxies2149
8 ай бұрын
The thought of a plane flying in the skies with a dead crew and passengers freaks me out to my core. Rest in peace, everyone who passed that day.
@lunayoshi
8 ай бұрын
At least it didn't crash into a populated area. We might have Andreas to thank for that in his last moments, but again, we'll never be sure.
@mboyer68
8 ай бұрын
Imagine being the military pilot pulling alongside and seeing that?Totally creepy!
@Gencturk92
7 ай бұрын
@@lunayoshi i dont even believe this plane suffered hypoxia, helios company were not doing good, they wanted to shut down helios, the f-16's shot the plane down
@lunayoshi
7 ай бұрын
@@Gencturk92 Oh no, not one of you. You know planes can crash from lack of fuel and aren't super eager to kill people, right? I hope you do. I've seen 4 channels/tv shows talk about this incident and all 4 of them say the plane ran out of fuel. Or is that a conspiracy too?
@Gencturk92
7 ай бұрын
@@lunayoshi oh ok so you watched some programs on tv and they said that the plane ran out of fuel... yeah that really does prove it thank you, anything else ? they said on 9/11 building 7 collapsed due to falling debris and office fires, they said storys about Madeline Mccan, they said about Malaysian plane mh370, they said about JFK assasination... for some reason whatever the news channels tells us is always the truth but when people do some research and see what conclusions are to come up with we are the ones that are conspiracy theory's ?
@ky7299
8 ай бұрын
I have been at the crash site at Grammatiko. There was a memorial at a nearby small chapel with photographs of the victims already bleached under the sun, including the one of Andreas Prodromou and his girlfriend you used. Vegetation on the hillside had regrown fully and you couldn't tell there had been a plane crash there together with a small fire that was easily put out. The small plateau where the 737 crashed was about two football fields long and made us wonder whether an experienced pilot could have made a better crash landing but it doesn't matter since all on board except Prodromou were already brain dead with no hope of recovering. The chief investigator in Athens used a similar 737 of another company to try to duplicate the trip to better understand what happened. Most say it was an unnecessary move done only to have his name made public by the media and gain praise. The coroner that examined the bodies stated that their hearts were still beating at the time of the crash, which while technically correct was misleading in the sense that people thought they were "alive" while they already had sustained irreversible brain damage and were in an unrecoverable vegetative state. In this sense the fact that the plane crashed and finished them off was a blessing, imagine those 110+ people in a hospital in an unrecoverable coma. Photographs of the victims' bodies after the crash were leaked in dark web sites. I had a chance to see them. I won't go into detail but I got to see what extreme deceleration trauma looks like. Most of them didn't have even a small cut on their skin and this is the only thing I want to say.
@ChristopherBurtraw
8 ай бұрын
I think it is unfair for Alan Irwin to have gone to prison over this, unless it is established as an imperative safety checklist on his part to reset that switch according to the maintenance SOPs. I'm glad a court found him not responsible, because as far as I can tell, he wasn't, even if he were to admit that he had left that switch. This is 10000% on the pilots. Regarding remaking videos, TBH I think I would particularly enjoy a video of this magnitude of depth on the Hindenberg disaster - it's the oldest video on this channel (was it the very first DB video?) and very short.
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Alan Irwin did an article with the Guardian if you haven't already read it: www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/19/in-2005-helios-flight-522-crashed-into-a-greek-hillside-was-it-because-one-man-forgot-to-flip-a-switch He tells his side of things. It's certainly an extension of the helios story and is even tragic in parts.
@RealBrik2
8 ай бұрын
@@DisasterBreakdownCan you make a video on Easyjet 6074?
@sarahfrith1984
8 ай бұрын
I agree. Irwin probably experiences some guilt that he could have set it back and prevented this but it’s not his fault the pilots did not check it. On their part I guess they allowed assumption to take over, as they assumed it was set to auto like it usually is. It is such a tragic accident that was so preventable but hindsight is 20/20 and looking back it all seems so obvious to us looking at it
@GuyNamedSean
8 ай бұрын
Fully agree. In his shoes, I'd probably never be able to stop blaming myself. Regardless, it was unquestionably not his fault. There's a lot of people at fault, from the pilots all the way to whoever wrote the inadequate guide directions. He's not one of them, though.
@foxglovesbouquet2905
8 ай бұрын
Tayla: Definity 100% should have been on the SOP, that's on however wrote it however.
@tf2255
8 ай бұрын
Good to see some of the older videos getting a face-lift. It goes to show just how far you have come. Keep up the good work.
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@dontspikemydrink9382
Ай бұрын
@DisasterBreakdown why do you redo these videos
@beccyvc5743
8 ай бұрын
Giiiirl, I have a 1 hour trainride ahead of me and you drop the disaster that haunts me the most. Thanks ❤
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Enjoy your journey!
@pattimaeda6097
8 ай бұрын
@@DisasterBreakdownhave you done Payne Stewart’s similar disaster?
@Dorina_Plays_Guitar
3 ай бұрын
Girl? Isn't the narrator a man?
@ChaosMagnet
8 ай бұрын
I first learned about this incident from an old Discovery Channel show, ages ago. It has haunted me ever since. I even had a few nightmares about it. I can’t imagine what that poor flight attendant was thinking and feeling. I know that the lack of adequate oxygen would likely have made him feel very distanced from the concept of his own impending mortality, at least to some degree, but he had to be aware that without the pilots being conscious, there was no way to safely land. And he tried so *damned* hard to save that plane. He tried so hard. I think that’s part of why I found this case so particularly heartbreaking. It just feels so wrong for the story of that flight and the lives of all aboard to have ended like that, when that lad tried so hard to get help, to save the lives of all flying with him.
@yanikeonpurpose
8 ай бұрын
To be honest, half way through after holding my head in my hands the whole time, when he said they’d fallen unconscious, I felt peace for them. They died without feeling a thing. They just fell asleep. That compared to being fully aware of your impending doom is fate I would much prefer. Rip to them all, especially that brave pilot at the end. 🕊✨
@bri-was-here
8 ай бұрын
Your cadence, your sense of humor, your wealth of knowledge, everything about your videos is worth the wait. Even with stories I'm already familiar with, you make it interesting to hear about them again. I'm always excited to see you pop up in my subscription feed 😁
@johnnicholas1488
6 ай бұрын
I agree. She has a subtle mysterious charm which intrigues me. Bet she is fun.
@lakeireland
8 ай бұрын
I really hate to say this but if I ever have to die in a plane incident, this is how I want to go. Thank you, Chloe for all the work you’ve done and continue to do in these videos. I wish you a speedy recovery!
@SunayanaSB1998
Ай бұрын
Sad but true
@georgezachos7322
8 ай бұрын
Greek here. This one hits hard. Thank you for your efforts Chloe.
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening
@chrishusted9296
8 ай бұрын
Hypo referring to a low or lowered presence Oxy referring to oxygen And Emia meaning presence in blood. Hypoxemia: low oxygen presence in blood.
@ZombieSazza
8 ай бұрын
“Despite what you might think, an aircraft is not perfectly sealed.” _[Stares at Alaska Airlines Flight 1282]_ Yeah, I mean that *does* check out.
@speedbird9313
8 ай бұрын
No commercial jet is perfectly sealed👍🏻
@Halinspark
Ай бұрын
@@speedbird9313Neither are ships or submarines.
@speedbird9313
Ай бұрын
@@Halinspark And?
@Halinspark
Ай бұрын
@@speedbird9313 And I thought it was interesting trivia related to the discussion, so I said it. That's kind of how communication works, do try to follow along.
@speedbird9313
Ай бұрын
@@Halinspark That a nice suppression technique after you’ve written something completely useless👏🏻👍🏻
@finnomaly
8 ай бұрын
good luck with the surgery chloe, and i wish you a smooth and speedy recovery :D
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@OutsideGalaxy
8 ай бұрын
I've seen this covered before but I always love how you go over things. This is such a very tragic disaster honestly both heartbreaking and eerie to think about
@cecilyanng
8 ай бұрын
Always better detail with Chloe!
@crosshyparu
8 ай бұрын
Chloe saying Freedom Units is the highlight of my life
@grapeshot
8 ай бұрын
Salute to that Airline steward🫡🫡🫡🫡
@Joshuadgog
8 ай бұрын
Its just a crazy crash. The horror of being in a plane with everyone died of the lack of oxygen. And one guy being left to try to save the plane but he could do nothing.
@D7STOPIAN
8 ай бұрын
I definitely agree, I don't usually get scared by crashes but the idea of being alone and watching everyone else die while you struggle with the fact that you will join them soon, that is a truly horrible fate.
@andreavgr
8 ай бұрын
I live in Athens and I remember on that day I was 12 years old. On that morning we were with my mother at Marathon beach for a swim and I remember asking her "why does this plane keep going in circles?" We only found out later when we were returning home on the radio in the car.
@somethingsomething404
8 ай бұрын
Holding patterns are common, but yeah 5+ laps isn’t
@andreavgr
8 ай бұрын
@@somethingsomething404 I don't remember how many laps I saw it do but I remember it went on for a good while and by the end many people were looking at it.
@TheWeatherbuff
8 ай бұрын
Hi Chloe! Sorry I am late to the party on this channel. I guess the YT algorithms decided I would like it... And I DO!! I've been bingeing on your past videos this weekend, and just subscribed. Obviously I am enjoying your productions. I must say, the narration is excellent. I work in broadcasting and voice acting, and you are doing a STELLAR job!! 😊
@andrewlonghofer
8 ай бұрын
I think your OG Helios 522 video was the first of your channel I ever saw, which made me subscribe. This is a BRILLIANT remake, and I have been awed by Andreas Prodromou since the first time I heard this story. Extremely well done.
@ADRgman
8 ай бұрын
Even though I saw the Air Crash Investigation for this I still watch it because these videos are so full of quality content
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
I appreciate the kind words, glad you like the videos.
@sammygirl6910
8 ай бұрын
Chloe, I just wanted to say how much I love your content. You are one of only three flight channels I watch, along with Montour Pilot and Green Dot. The detail and professionalism of your videos is really impressive. Keep up the great work.
@janethigginbottom
8 ай бұрын
They're my favourite three too. I'd love to see Chloe collab with Petter
@olig6769
8 ай бұрын
Congrats on the surgery! I'll be having top surgery this year and this channel will definitely be on rotation during recovery.
@runristenn3214
7 ай бұрын
Thank you. You have a very clear and good english, it's easy to listen to and easy to understand. My native tounge is swedish, I often watch Mentours videos and both of you delivers high quality stuff, you from the outside and Mentour from the inside of the cockpit. Well done!
@desertstar223
8 ай бұрын
This disaster has been covered by other channels. However, you brought your own unique style of telling the story. Especially all the background details. Which none of the other channels covered. Quality work.
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Thanks :)
@emilycormeraie8858
8 ай бұрын
I’ve spoken many times to my husband about this flight, and what’s really interesting is he always brings up what happened to him. See, he was actually on one of those Ryanair flights that suffered the same issue. He said that as the flight was taking off, still climbing, he began to feel drowsy. He looked around and oddly, it seems lots of people had fallen asleep. Suddenly a stewardess went running up to the front of the plane as fast as she seemed she could, the plane still climbing. He couldn’t see what she did, but moments later he began to feel lighter, and people started waking up. He said it all took place before they’d even levelled off, but it scared him so much. When we speak about the Helios flight, he worries for what could’ve happened if that attendant hadn’t reacted so quickly.
@speedbird9313
8 ай бұрын
Bleed-less takeoff, not uncommon for lowprice airlines Im afraid🙄
@charlotteinnocent8752
8 ай бұрын
Good luck and recover soon! Another wonderful video, this story always makes me cry to imagine the man walking to the front o the plane where the love of his life was unconscious, getting into the cockpit, and finding there was nothing he could do. It's the stuff of horror movies. Those poor people. I don't blame the engineer either, it was up to the captain and co pilot to check the switch. But may they all RIP.
@sophiec1528
8 ай бұрын
Out of all the air disasters I know of, this particular one has always stuck with me. It is incomprehensible in a "special" way for lack of better term. Thanks for this video Chloe I really enjoy these longer videos
@LuchinoBruttomesso
8 ай бұрын
Nice video,this accident will also forever be burned into my memory as i just was so happened to be born 5 days After this tragedy, R.I.P to the 121 people onboard flight 522
@StephenLuke
8 ай бұрын
RIP To the passengers and crew of Helios Airways Flight 522
@PoppyRoseWitch
8 ай бұрын
Absolutely incredible video about a heartbreaking disaster. I’m thoroughly impressed with the amount of details! You put in so much work, and it shows! Amazing job ❤
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for watching!
@fliegenistdassicherste8828
8 ай бұрын
Helios 522 really fits to the Greek tragedy from ancient Greece. It almost seems like fate, that this had to happen in greece
@CapitalismSuxx
8 ай бұрын
I subbed to your Patreon as a Christmas treat and you don't disappoint. Love everything from your channel !
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your support 😊
@linux4me28
8 ай бұрын
I was going to say, this is a remake. I think it was fitting because it shows the progression of this channel. I remembered the first one, this was an amazing remake of it. Amazing Job!!!
@mattamiller2002
8 ай бұрын
I've seen a few other takes on this disaster and I really think this is the best one. Clarified and corrected a few things I'd heard about this incident. Good luck with the surgery. Can't wait for the next video.
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ryanatkinson2978
8 ай бұрын
This disaster occupies my mind more than most. I've watched pretty much every video on it from the various channels, and this one was really good
@lyedavide
8 ай бұрын
It's crazy to have a single warning sound for more than one specific problem. With respect to this particular problem, there should have been an automatic reset, like the door catch, which automatically returns to it's default position as automatic, exactly the same as the spring loaded door catch springs out once you release the door handle. That said, as with so many accidents, this one was caused by a cascading string of errors by several people. RIP to those who died in this really unfortunate accident.
@EdinMike
8 ай бұрын
“Most of the passengers were Cypriot, some were Greek…” As someone who had an ex Cypriot girlfriend, I ain’t touching that sentence with a barge-pole !
@stefanhoimes
8 ай бұрын
The 400 pleats include residents of the island, minus the occupiers.
@thefunkyflame6303
8 ай бұрын
A Re-Up from Chhlooooooooooooooooooooooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@MELANIE2571
8 ай бұрын
Oh my. This made me cry. You don't really think about exactly what happens when you see these articles on the news etc. Just so tragic. Thanks Chloe,brilliant as always, done with compassion and empathy as always ❤
@mcsexyinc
8 ай бұрын
This is a tragedy so it feels a little weird saying ive been wishing and waiting for you to do this one! I first learned about it through the Real Horrors channel (highly recommend) and no other breakdown on youtube really held my attention like that one. I appreciate you and all you do, Chloe!
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching :)
@StellaMurano
8 ай бұрын
Real Horror's video about Helios always leaves me in tears :( Exceptionaly good coverage though, with lots of details and perfect narration!
@RalphEllis
8 ай бұрын
The problem was the B.oeing 737. You CANNOT have a warning that has two meanings. And you cannot have something this urgent, that does not trigger the master warning. The problem is that when you are in the simulator (twice a year), this warning is ALWAYS the take-off config warning. Every other aircraft would have given clear warnings, that this was a pressurisation fault. But not the 737. R
@user-xu2pi6vx7o
8 ай бұрын
@@RalphEllisYou also can't have a WARNING light, that's GREEN.
@sharoncassell5273
5 ай бұрын
Another type of ghost plane was flight 401 .Everglades in FL. After accident many years later crew were experiencing visions of last crew who were killed earlier. Whenever they cannabalized parts from this plane the apparitions would reappear. A book named Ghost plane was written. A video of us here also.
@CuriousMess61
8 ай бұрын
RIP to all those who were lost and blessings to their families. Another great video Chloe. It was good to hear your voice on the Plainly Difficult video I recently watched. You and John should do more collaborations. Good luck with your surgery.
@axilleas
8 ай бұрын
Great video!!!! Thank you!!! P.S.: A little known but very disturbing fact is that photos of the crash site “pre recovery” were leaked on the internet a few years after the crash, completely disrespecting the loved ones of those that perished. The people responsible, almost certainly part of the investigation were never found or held accountable.
@yashjoshiiii
8 ай бұрын
I am just trying to understand why did it take so long for Andreas to get into the cockpit when he was able to use up to 3 oxygen tanks. I guess we will never know 😞
@D7STOPIAN
8 ай бұрын
Its policy for most airlines to have the cockpit locked, from what I know, it cannot be easily opened by anyone outside of it. He likely had to force the door open, which is designed to be difficult in the case of 911-esque attempted hijackings.
@ferdinandfoch7816
8 ай бұрын
@@D7STOPIAN flight attendants have override codes that grant access to the cockpit in cases of pilot incapacitation.
@speedbird9313
8 ай бұрын
@@D7STOPIANYou cant force those doors to open☝🏻 The door was locked, he used the four didget airline code to enter.
@speedbird9313
8 ай бұрын
Nobody will ever know🙄🤷🏻♂️
@Glegh
8 ай бұрын
Guess im doing nothing for the next hour
@StellaDraco
8 ай бұрын
You got very good information on hypoxia and explained it very well. Great video!
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@SpeedUpThatComputer
8 ай бұрын
Tbh one good idea would be having the computer speak and tell the pilots "Hypoxia imminent, descend to 10,000 feet or lower immediately!" It'll speak 3 times within a certain timeframe and if the pilots don't take action the autopilot will take over and descend the plane itself and if there's any inputs the autopilot will ignore them.
@dankrauz1036
8 ай бұрын
Though i've heard this story before...only you Chloe can tell it in such detail. Kudos.
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I'm thrilled you like the videos!
@rafbarkway5280
7 ай бұрын
Just to clarify, the cockpit door will open in an emergency IF the pilots don't stop an emergency entry attempt. Specifically, there is a delay during which the pilots can hit DENY entry, or set the lock to LOCKED instead of AUTO. There is a CHIME to allert the pilots of an entry request. IF not DENIED, crew can enter. In LOCKED mode, even the overide code cannot open the door; hope that clarifys things. I hope setting it to AUTO, in case of a pilot incapacitation issue, is in the check list!
@TheGustavok
8 ай бұрын
"Freedom Units" was absolutely brilliant! :D
@stephanosmessios6737
8 ай бұрын
I can't tell you how fucking horrified Cypriots were when Helios went down. The likelihood you knew someone on the plane was pretty high and it just shook us as a nation.
@hollymartins6913
8 ай бұрын
Besides the accuracy and depth of the information provided and the flawlessly-synced visual references, your narration is flawless.
@sharoncassell5273
5 ай бұрын
I was watching another video on a different channel and comments praised other artists so I added your name Chloe to the bragging rights group. I praised your presentation urging them to experience your reports. Thank you for such a thoroughness.
@greenockscatman
8 ай бұрын
You really did justice to a very tragic case. Appreciate the remake, Chloe! And best of luck with the surgery!
@Sahai907
7 ай бұрын
As a person who uses subtitles, I really appreciate your writing the subtitles. Quality is what makes a good KZitemr, not quantity
@steve10
8 ай бұрын
The music played as you mentioning them passing was really touching , I guess if it was just passing out with no panic and no suffering in the way you would if you drown or suffocate then if you do go then I would rather go that way tbh. Amazing how the computer just flies the plane with everyone dead on board , its quite chilling. The one person still alive must have been spooky for him and quite scary.
@DanRelayer_Ukraine
8 ай бұрын
one of the most haunting aviation accidents
@hectornecromancer5308
8 ай бұрын
To think that I found this accident through a related incident involving a private jet that killed Payne Stewart in 1999, 6 years before Helios 522 incident occured
@serverbf100mr
8 ай бұрын
Great video Chloe, like always! If possible, may you do the Kano Air Disaster or the Agadir Air Disaster? Both were B707 and were 2 years apart 173 Deaths for KAD and 188 Deaths For AAD
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
I have Kano on my "to look at" list for a while. I might get to it soon actually.
@pennywaltz4601
8 ай бұрын
@@DisasterBreakdown will you do a video of Uruguayan air force flight 571 sometime this year? You must have heard of that crash its called the Andes flight disaster and Miracle of the Andes. Where most of the passengers survived the crash some dead from their injuries, the cold, also a avalanche. The search for the crash site was called off after 8 days during 72 days the survivors faced extreme hardships, exposure, also starvation the remaining passengers resorted to cannibalism to survive. Two survivors Nando parrado and Roberto Canessa climbed out the mountain peak without mountaineering gear hiked for 10 days before finding help.
@olig6769
8 ай бұрын
@@pennywaltz4601 It might be hard to work into this channel, since the crash itself was pretty uncomplicated and the interesting part only used the plane as a backdrop. But if you're interested in that case, Last Podcast on the Left just did a three-hour series on it. Their humour isn't for everyone, but I personally enjoyed it.
@StellaMurano
8 ай бұрын
Helios 522 will always be close to my heart as it's one of the first air disasters I learnt about when I started my journey as avgeek. Thank you so much for preparing longer videos for us! Aaand happy new year! 🎉❤
@nathanlerma9891
8 ай бұрын
Absolutely loved this episode,no offense but yeah much better than the original,nice work Chole. Such a tragic accident I can't even imagine what Andreas went through during that flight, trying his best to save it,but ultimately in vain,god bless their souls of the passengers and crew. And bravo to Andres Pradromou,a true hero BTW thanks for including the HMHS Britannic not many people do that,also coincidentally the aircraft held a similar name to it's sister, Olympic
@Txm_Dxr_Bxss
8 ай бұрын
He could have entered an hour or 2 earlier. Then he could have possibly saved the plane, maybe even a few other passengers.
@nathanlerma9891
8 ай бұрын
@@Txm_Dxr_Bxss true but bear in mind he was surrounded by 120 others who knocked out cold by hypoxia,one of which being his girlfriend, so for all we know he could have been in the cabin trying to revive them. We'll never know
@Frostnburn
8 ай бұрын
The plane that was carrying the Gambian national football team has just suffered similar situation but thankfully the pilots discovered the situation quickly and landed the plane.
@stuarthumphrey1787
8 ай бұрын
Happy new year Chloe. Yet another fascinating insight into a tragic event. Thank you for your dedication in bringing us such informative videos
@alanm8932
8 ай бұрын
A slightly interesting aside on hypoxia... A pilot of an unpressurized light aircraft, flying a few hours at over 10,000ft, was in the habit of occasionally monitoring his blood oxygen saturation using one of those blood oximeters that clip onto a fingertip. In the first of leg of his outbound flight, he did this and was reassure to see that the blood oxygen saturation measurement was significantly higher than he was expecting. (Send me a reply if you already know where this is going...) He landed, refueled his aircraft and flew the second outbound leg. On landing again, when he opened the cockpit & got out, he immediately vomited & had a bad headache. He felt pretty bad but attended the meeting he had travelled to and then refueled & took off for the return journey. He woke up & thought what an exceptionally clear view he had. (He usually had problems with the cockpit glass steaming up). When he came round a bit more he realised that most of the glass was broken and missing and he was in a field. He had fallen unconscious from carbon monoxide poisoning and had survived the subsequent crash landing that the aircraft did on its own. He hadn't related the earlier vomiting and headache to his aircraft as they only happened when he had got outside and had been reassured by the high blood oxygen readings. With light aircraft, CO poisoning is something to be aware of because the cabin air is almost always heated in a heat exchanger around the engine exhaust pipe. This can lead to exhaust getting into the cabin if there is a fault with the system. The point is, that type of oximeter he used will read a high "oxygen" saturation when the blood is actually saturated with carbon monoxide, so you are still experiencing a lack of oxygen in the blood even when the oximeter may say close to 99% saturation. I don't know how widely known that is but the pilot wasn't aware & if I'd ever heard that before then I'd forgotten!
@fushigifreakorbulusraymond6838
8 ай бұрын
A fantastic video as ever! Usually I'm fairly resistant to getting upset about these subjects, but this one was absolutely haunting, which I suppose is fitting. Your video quality has improved so much since the original! Best of luck with the surgery as well :)
@mikkelangelo5700
5 ай бұрын
I have listened to many accident documentaries through the years of my life (was fed a steady diet of Seconds Before Disaster as a child), so videos such as these have become the way to keep me sane through the workday, however... Even after having listened to your video about Saudia Flight 163, which was harrowing in its own right, this one was so utterly heartwretching that I wept on the bus home from work. Absolutely stunning work making this video, well done.
@keeperofoddknowledgesociet3264
8 ай бұрын
I love this channel. The details are amazing. I don’t think I heard this much about the cockpit crew. Wow.
@CassassinCatto
8 ай бұрын
Going back to the classic pre-cracked egg video to compare after this. Good luck with the surgery and get well soon. This was one of the first Air Crash Investigation episodes I watched (ironically two weeks before I went on my very first flight in a Bombardier Dash-8 Q400) but this video has far more detail with much less sensationalism than ACI; the only thing I miss from this is the interview with Andreas' father, which made me cry when I saw it. I discovered recently through Paper Skies there is an incident of a Russian Ghost Plane but don't know any more detail, would you consider that as a future video? Also hoping to have a new job soon and dropping a donation in the Patreon hat is on my plans for my first paycheck. Good luck!
@stevenmcghee6649
8 ай бұрын
Excellent video (as ever). This extraordinary story is almost like a script from a movie except such a script would probably be rejected as being too far-fetched. I can't begin to imagine how that poor man felt for those 2 hours, all alone and in such a hopeless situation. He did remarkably well to ensure, as far as his limited experience allowed, that the final crash occurred over uninhabited ground.
@speedbird9313
8 ай бұрын
So why didnt he enter the cockpit at an earlier stage?🤷🏻♂️
@Patrickair4444
8 ай бұрын
This crash was the one of the most strange accidents to ever occur in innovation history even myself I couldn’t understand how this could happen any 21st century cabin depressurization failure cost the life’s , everyone onboard over Greece they a air crash investigation out
@speedbird9313
8 ай бұрын
No depressurization☝🏻 Lack of pressurization.
@starlightela
8 ай бұрын
heartbreaking, but a really fascinating example why safety checks are important and shouldn't be glossed over! lovely video as always!!!
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@cuda6496
8 ай бұрын
The F16 behind the plane was ready to shuut it down !!🤦♂️
@Awest101784
8 ай бұрын
This accident always fascinated me.
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
me too!
@mikemoreno4469
8 ай бұрын
Hope you are fully recovered, Chloe. I love your voice, by the way. ❤
@bradwolf07
8 ай бұрын
An utter tragedy. RIP to all those who lost their lives.
@doubledistilled
8 ай бұрын
Premium quality in-depth content. Thank you! Condolences to all those involved in this tragedy.
@hunterchristian8372
8 ай бұрын
This ... Literally brought tears to my eyes. So gut wrenching. So terrifying. So ... Sad.
@YourGranIsBigMad
8 ай бұрын
I love how much you go in depth with the details with your videos. It's been awesome seeing your content and quality improve with each video. You've done very well. 👍
@themythwithin6669
7 ай бұрын
The case of Helios 522 chills me to my absolute core, despite this being the air crash that ended up peaking my interest in aviation and leading me to want to become a pilot, the fact that it could have been prevented so easily always makes me wish i could somehow go back and scream at the pilots to check their cabin pressure. It really is probably the most chilling and unusual plane crash in commercial aviation I've ever heard of.
@toketwo
8 ай бұрын
Back from work, had the worst day in weeks. Logistics are fucking blowing up no matter what part you work in. Withdrawal and everything summed up, lately only your videos help me to just listen and watch, without a thought thought of smoking, driking or pills. Thank you for the upload. Appreciate you very highly. Greetings from germany.
@DisasterBreakdown
8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for watching. I appreciate you taking time out of your day to watch my videos.
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