For me I find vector styler complements affinity designer. For me nothing tops the way that layers work in affinity designer and how quick it is to select re arrange and blend objects and layers. That being said it does lack a lot of the vector tools and effects I’ve been missing for years. For the last couple months I’ve been using affinity for the main bulk of my design, but occasionally creating and editing assets in vectorstyler before copying and pasting into affinity.
@bendesignsmedia
Жыл бұрын
Does the copy and past between the two work pretty well?
@nickjoseph5224
Жыл бұрын
The problem with Affinity is it keeps lacking a lot of tools that are needed like gradient mesh and on and on. Bugs still not fixed in v.2. Workflow and interface are good, but they've been around how many years now? No blend tool after all this time? No autotrace? It's never going to get where it needs to be I'm afraid.
@bendesignsmedia
Жыл бұрын
I think one of the problems with Affinity is that they are too good, they are so good that people wish they would do exactly everything that Adobe programs can do at a fraction of the cost.
@nickjoseph5224
Жыл бұрын
@@bendesignsmedia The price vs what you get argument is a non-starter. Either Affinity can do the full job or it can't. I like the potential of Affinity like everyone else, but after seven long years they haven't even caught up to CS6. The suite is still a useful tool don't get me wrong, but some tools are basic. Layer states is a great addition to photo and about time. It is impressive that vectorstyler has so much more in what, 3 years than designer in double that time though.
@bendesignsmedia
Жыл бұрын
@@nickjoseph5224 For many people it can do the full job they need to do. Every development team has different priorities. Vectorstyler has prioritized trying to be as much like Illustrator as possible, Affinity has prioritized making 3 different apps that work together
@cand1ss
2 жыл бұрын
Vectorstyler sounds amazing but I've already invested the time to get used to all 3 affinity apps and procreate so I'm burned out on learning another app. And I love how affinity has the apps linked together, just brilliant. Just want affinity publisher on iPad and an affinity asset management app like Adobe bridge.
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah publisher on iPad would be amazing!
@starwarz8479
2 жыл бұрын
Ya it's 2022 Affinity Designer should just add the shape builder tool to their next update. Doesn't make any sense to own multiple vector tools for different features lol
@TheKevphil
Жыл бұрын
I have the full Affinity Suite, now at v2. I actually LIKE Photo and Publish; it's just Designer that bugs the heck out of me! Something about how it uses layers is very confusing to me. Plus, the fact that AD lacks Vector-Trace and Object Blends (after all this time!) is awful. Finally, I'm a Clip Studio user, espec of Vector Layers, and when I heard about some of the similarities, I'm very curious. I plan to download the trial of VS and see how stable it is on Windows. Thanks, Ben!
@bendesignsmedia
Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, hope it works well for you!
@DMain-tb8ye
2 жыл бұрын
Good review comments - thanks. I'm with Affinity Designer right now, but I have severe limitations on my specific work due to it's absence of patter-fill bitmap-fill objects. Almost every other vector package has this capability - even Inkscape! While I like what I see so far in VectorStyler in this respect - the extra 95$ is a medium detractor. BTW - Affinity has had pattern/bitmap- and vector fill on the request list since about 2016 - with no signs that they are responding to user requests. Sure - enhancements in processing power - as in their latest release - are nice, but that focuses on power users. 'But missing basic components has caused me to look elsewhere, like VectorStyler.
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
Good point, thanks for sharing your perspective. When you need a particular tool you have to use whatever will give you that tool I think.
@LeDucTube
2 жыл бұрын
I was so excited for VectorStyler. It is off to an incredible start, but it is not ready for commercial release yet in my opinion. There are so many bugs that have not been addressed. For example, the Eraser, Knife, and Trim and Join Tools do not split objects into separate curve layers but remain as one. I’m gonna wait to see its progress before considering a purchase. Quite disappointed seeing how it has the exact tools I need.
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
Can those objects be ungrouped into separate objects?
@LeDucTube
2 жыл бұрын
@@bendesignsmedia Nope. I just tested this out. There are no groups involved with this operation.
@boldlinedesignllc
2 жыл бұрын
@Prevalent Arts - the Eraser and Knife tool and the boolean operations in Vectorstyler all will allow for the splitting of objects - it requires a second step using either "break apart" or "separate path" Trim and Join is not a "splitting tool" but mean for cleaning up overlapping strokes. If you share these concerns you have in the Vectorstyler forum, everyone there is quick to help answer questions
@LeDucTube
2 жыл бұрын
@@boldlinedesignllc Thank you for your reply. Luckily, I gave the program a try and found out about the functions.
@boldlinedesignllc
2 жыл бұрын
@@LeDucTube Are you still doing your video review of Vectorstyler?
@moreorlesslikeso
2 жыл бұрын
It really does seem that VectorStyler has quite a few of those features we've been missing in AD for so long now (ShapeBuilder, EnvelopeDistortion, real(!) Vector Brushes etc.), so I'm actually very tempted to not completely switch from AD but to add VS to my vector tools... You would be able to get VS designs into AD via exporting as PDF, wouldn't you? (At least after "expanding" certain filter/effects based things to just shapes, I'd say - any experiences with this?) However, as you mentioned, the Affinity Studio Link workflow is such a great concept that works really well, so after long - actually on the whole not unpleasant - years with Adobe (when they still seemed to belong to the good guys...) I guess I'll stay with Affinity. Maybe version 2 will have substantial features added at last... (hope dies last as they say)
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't purchase vector styler, so I never tried bringing it in to AD, but I feel like SVG would be a better choice than PDF, but I'm not sure. Maybe someone else can enlighten us.
@moreorlesslikeso
2 жыл бұрын
@@bendesignsmedia Is SVG compatible with CMYK mode? If so, SVG would be OK, too, I guess (if VectorStyler has a true CMYK mode in the first place, that is). If you're primarily designing for print this is quite essential, I'd say. (One of the main reasons I tend not to use Inkscape a lot although it has so many useful vector tools and features).
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
@@moreorlesslikeso Oh good point. I don't think so. I wonder if you could import an SVG from VS to AD and then convert to CMYK? I suppose you could also try using EPS, but at some point it probably isn't worth it unless you really need one of those tools Affinity doesn't have
@moreorlesslikeso
2 жыл бұрын
@@bendesignsmedia I tend to agree. As we all know you often can make things work somehow using workarounds and additional stages inbetween those we usually go by. But there as well is a point where the joy of getting it done (somehow) is beginning to be significantly overshadowed by the tediousness of the processes you're forced to follow. Having to design this way threatens to take the fun out of it and that's not good... You really can't beat an effective and intuitive workflow when trying to be naturally creative.
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
@@moreorlesslikeso true, I think problem solving can be fun, but once you have found the work around and have to do it every time it can get very tedious, especially if you know there is an easier way elsewhere
@chinaminer
Жыл бұрын
Considering that I have to start and I was thinking to AD after these comments should I consider VS which seems after all more complete?
@bendesignsmedia
Жыл бұрын
I would say download both of the free trials and test out to see which one works better for you. If you are already familiar with Illustrator, then VectorStyler might make more sense, but if you are new to vector art I think affinity designer has less of a learning curve.
@DavidG2P
2 жыл бұрын
VS is a 50 MB download, while AD is 500MB :-o
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
hm, that is very interesting, I wonder why that is. Maybe the coders of vector styler are super efficient
@louisebastard2091
2 жыл бұрын
also affinity back up service is really great
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Affinity (from Serif) has a back up service, there is a different product called affinity that provides back ups though
@gonebymidnight2881
2 жыл бұрын
Vectorstyler has everything in an unconvenient workflow affinity has the workflow but lacks the features. If both merged they would blow AI out of the water.
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
Probably not, Adobe has a strong hold on the market, it would be cool though
@gonebymidnight2881
2 жыл бұрын
@@bendesignsmedia Yea.. Adobe has no real competition at this point, which could change if both companies merged to put out a real Ai Contender. I don’t think this is in line with Serif’s vision despite their marketing materials suggesting otherwise so I doubt it’ll happen sometime soon, but it’d be great for us professionals to have options and they’ll eventually come.
@peacoworld4612
2 жыл бұрын
I basically always see which app is more advanced (has many features) except for Adobe because I want a lisence not a subscription (╯︵╰,) So bro I guess Affinity is more advanced than this new app right ?
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily, they are different. Affinity is more advanced when it comes to integrating with the other apps, vectorstyler is more advanced when it comes to the tools available
@peacoworld4612
2 жыл бұрын
@@bendesignsmedia ok thx :) Every app has its own uniqu ability and I want all lol ;(
@przemekbiernat2725
Жыл бұрын
Somebody does check performance of vectorstyler?
@bendesignsmedia
Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I'm not sure what you are asking
@boldlinedesignllc
2 жыл бұрын
Why did my comment get deleted? - Will you check and see if my comment got sent to spam? It was a little long so I assume YT decided it must be spam lol
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I checked the spam section and don't see it, sorry about that :( Normally it filters out anything with a link in it or anything with inappropriate language, but I should still be able to see them from my end
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
I saw an email with two more comments from you come through, but when I came to reply to them they were no where to be found!? Not on the video and not in the spam??
@boldlinedesignllc
2 жыл бұрын
@@bendesignsmedia I added two smaller comments yesterday and both are gone now... I give up
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
@@boldlinedesignllc honestly it is very weird and I wonder if I am losing other comments too :( Except in this case I actually got notice that you had posted them so I did know they should have been there. And it isn't like you are blocked because we are commenting now, but the comments aren't going anywhere I can see them.
@boldlinedesignllc
2 жыл бұрын
@@bendesignsmedia I believe you that you did not remove them and that I am not blocked. It only kept my "non-informative" posts so to speak. Any time I shared my views on VS and Affinity (nothing bad, no bad words or threats or anything - very positive thoughts, they were immediately deleted by....something. I know it's not you. It does make me never want to post on threads on YT because why bother if they just get removed immediately?
@KyninhaH
2 жыл бұрын
Ha timing
@bendesignsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, yes, I was working on this video when you asked your question on the other video
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