▶Sponsor: Windows 10 Pro ($17) biitt.ly/kPBz6 *NOTE: Incorrect B-roll for Intel Micro Code Update. Should be 0x129, not 0x125. UPDATE: Intel just commented that Arrow Lake not impacted by Innovation event cancellation.* What are your thoughts on Ryzen 9000? Are you building or upgrading? What games are you playing? Tell your story in a new comment below!
@Hybris51129
Ай бұрын
Dumb question but can anyone else vouch for this Windows key sponsor? I need a Win 10 Pro 64 bit key but this reeks of "too good to be true".
@John-Wolfe
Ай бұрын
@@Hybris51129 I have been using the codes for several builds with no issues.
@John-Wolfe
Ай бұрын
Basically they sell off excess OEM keys which is why they are so cheap, and also Microsoft is a greedy company.
@SpoonHurler
Ай бұрын
@@Hybris51129 Anything 20 buck or more base price on a reputable site like urcdkeys are fine. Only issue I've had was with eBay codes back in the day.
@MaryannLynch-z9c
Ай бұрын
HODL thus far. Maybe X3D and new mbs next month will make a difference or R9s.
@EricRini
Ай бұрын
Despite the fact that you talk like someone announcing a monster truck rally, your content is among the best on KZitem. You are in the same league as LTT, GamersNexus, JayZ, etc. Keep it up you deserve way more subscribers.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
haha thank you! Appreciate it (:
@tauriqabdullah6130
Ай бұрын
same league as LTT? LTT is garbage. This man's work is honest and puts the consumer 1st. Can't say the same for LTT.
@Zxanonblade
Ай бұрын
Better than LTT in terms of usefulness tbh...
@bradythebirdy4862
Ай бұрын
In terms of use to the most people this guy is committed as hell. Imo he is THE most useful pc youtuber if you are looking to build a pc
@EjayT06
Ай бұрын
@@ZxanonbladeLTT is so overrated and despite all the controversies over the years he still somehow has a massive following 😭
@Venlorz
Ай бұрын
I have built my own PC for first time and already setting up for BIOS and Windows. thank you for the videos for these past few months and here I am, still watching your videos.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Congrats on your build!! So glad we could help. Show off a build pic if you like on twitter/threads @pcbuilderjason
@bjarnis
Ай бұрын
That's cool, have fun.
@Loca1ID
Ай бұрын
Yeah, same here, build my PC 3 Days ago for my Birthday and it gets delivered next week. Ryzen 5 7600X ASUS TUF-Gaming B650-PLUS WIFI RX 7800XT Might have "some" bottleneck on the CPU but upgradepath should be solid
@Venlorz
Ай бұрын
@@Loca1ID it has? Jason said that 7800XT or RTX 4070S are the max recommended GPU for 7600X tho... and I believe that's the case when check out 7600X in other channels... yours is fine... congrats to us hehe
@Loca1ID
Ай бұрын
@@Venlorz My bad, should have stated that my view was influenced by "pc-builds bottleneck calculator" primarly under the General and CPU-heavy tasks. GPU heavy-tasks actually show 0.00% bottleneck. So you are right, Gaming is fine, but I gotta test how my Browser with "a few" tabs run alongside some games.
@latinlowrider59
Ай бұрын
Can't wait for the X3D variants!
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Yes hoping they will be a much better launch
@JahonCross
Ай бұрын
LoL its going to be trash as well😂😂😂
@Riyozsu
Ай бұрын
@@JahonCrossdid you build the cpu already?
@JahonCross
Ай бұрын
@@Riyozsu nope 🙅♀️
@lffoxley
Ай бұрын
@@JahonCrossthen how would you know?
@frederickspeller8117
Ай бұрын
It's like when Intel released Skylake and it was only around 5% faster than Haswell. That's what happens when your competitors don't compete.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Yes, lack of competition is disastrous
@frighteningspoon
29 күн бұрын
True enough AMD's marketing team really misunderstand this lineup
@TimmSchn
Ай бұрын
I built a semi mobile ITX build for VR in February based on an 7600X and RTX 4070 in the Terra ITX case and barely touched my almost 4 year old main PC (5800X and RTX 3080) since. The little ITX thing on my living room table is just so convient. Thank you for your amazing videos, giving great overviews on performance and value, helping us choosing the best components. You are the best tech KZitemr, sharing No1 with Steve Burke! No fuss, just plain information and great enthusiasm. Please never change that.
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Congrats on your build! And thank you for the feedback it means a lot
@Anton_dk
Ай бұрын
We shouldn't be comparing the 9700X with the 7700X despite the referential name. They might have the same amount of cores and threads, but their TDP is way different (9700X is 65W and 7700X is 105W). Instead we should be comparing the 9700X to the 7700 which has the same TDP, and also a $30 uplift in MSRP. A peformance and effienciency increasy of 7%, but who cares about efficiency at this power level? Most gamers only care about FPS for the buck, and when you go from $329 to $359 in MSRP and realize you lose the stock cooler, the game is kinda over. Name scheming means nothing nowadays. (I got this from youtuber Daniel Owen)
@jassco2
Ай бұрын
This needs to be upvoted more especially on a channel like this that compares pricing. Don’t fall for the marketing tricks.
@steinanderson9849
Ай бұрын
I too saw the DO video
@nikolailukanov8169
Ай бұрын
7800x3d beats 14900k while being a fraction of the tdp. Stop making excuses. The 9000 chips revealed so far are way worse than expected.
@Anton_dk
Ай бұрын
@@nikolailukanov8169 Yes, but only in gaming. My point is that the naming schemes have nothing to say between 7000 and 9000, and given the Intel situation it is important to be aware of AMD’s own lineup and specs on those gens, someone might be tricked to think the 9700X and 7700X are the same because of the similar names.
@RandallRoman
29 күн бұрын
I think what really hammers it home that the 9700X and 9600X parts are fundamentally non-X parts is that the base clock is about the same as the 7000 series non-X parts. Next year we will see XT versions with 105W TDP that will be the true X versions
@gntan83
Ай бұрын
AMD missed a real opportunity to lure more customers away from Intel. If they're just going to lower prices eventually shortly after launch, why not price them lower to begin with.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Agreed! They had a chance to really shine, and they still can if they drop prices quickly
@jimashby43
Ай бұрын
The Truth kinda hurts, was expecting more 😢 But if the price drops more, I hope your right 😊
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
I know! I'm frustrated too. But I hold out hope they drop prices quick like they have done before
@RobBCactive
Ай бұрын
You can simply up the power on 9700x to give each core more than 11W per core. Effectively they shipped with Eco mode enabled, which given the number of people who lost their chit over 95C and 120W & 170W TDP is understandable. But you cannot cut so much power and not have it cut performance, derB8uer's figures showed good gains. We need to see if there's more than the memory configuration issue with PBO enabled that pursuaded them defaulting to Eco mode would go down well on benchmark obsessed reviewers.
@P5YKOTIK1870
Ай бұрын
Great video, I think AMD really shot themselves in the foot with limiting the 9700x to only a 65w tdp. That's what the non X counterparts are for. Needless to say I will be waiting for the 9800x3d. Anyway, I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend, please be safe and God Bless
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Have a great weekend! Thanks for watching
@electricpaper269
Ай бұрын
You can undo that just by enabling PBO
@myne00
Ай бұрын
Don't think they care. These are the duds and overstock of Epyc.
@9TDF
Ай бұрын
At least 9700x won't cook it's self like it's current intel counter parts
@manusiaorang2842
Ай бұрын
@@9TDFevery cpu cooks themself silly
@farlandduck4463
Ай бұрын
Zen 5 doesn't actually have a big efficiency uplift. The 7000 CPUs were 65W, the 7000X CPUs were 105W, and the 9000X CPUs are 65W. They are intentionally misleading consumers to compare the 7600X to the 9600X and the 7700X to the 9700X so it looks like there is a big efficiency gain. In reality, the 7000X CPUs were much more power hungry than their non-X counterparts, while offering only 2% more performance. If we compare 9000X CPUs to 7000 non-X CPUs, the huge efficiency gain vanishes. AMD purposefully chose to make it look like a 5% performance gain and a 40% efficiency gain, rather than a 7% performance gain and 7% efficiency gain. They knew zen 5 was going to be disappointing and unfortunately successfully misled many reviewers.
@lazylemymaitland6996
Ай бұрын
If the 9000X3D isn’t coming out this year I’m getting a 5 8500G and using my 4060, I’m really hoping X3D September/October
@BearThing
Ай бұрын
Currently happy with my 5600 and 6700XT at 1440p 144Hz system. After this 9000 series release by AMD I don't see any compelling reason to move to AM5 while the 5700X3D is available as an upgrade path.
@pkilljoy5797
Ай бұрын
beyond excited for the 9000 x3d line, will be building my first AMD system!
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Nice!
@Riyozsu
Ай бұрын
I bet we are going to see lot of bios updates new AGESA versions to improve these CPUs. I can see that they will most likely keep getting faster as time goes on with better GPUs for higher scaling.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Here's hoping!
@robertmyers6488
Ай бұрын
There is something wrong with the software in Windows. The disparity between Linux performance and Windows performance is too great. Check out Phoronix's review.
@fly4fun24
Ай бұрын
thanks to you all, I have a 7800×3D.. and RX 7800XT .....So Happy
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Congrats on your build!
@jaystar5596
Ай бұрын
i just finished my first build yesterday, glad i didnt wait and went for 7800x3d for my 4080 super. Just need a better monitor and im ready for 1440p gaming
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Congrats on your build! Show off a build pic if you like on twitter/threads @pcbuilderjason
@peytonembaugh1484
Ай бұрын
I'm very happy with my 7600x I got for 171. Was gonna go with 7600 , but seen that sale that one day and just grabbed it up and everything followed behind that. Got pretty much 50 bucks or so off of each main component except ram case and cooler
@robmoab3410
Ай бұрын
Did the same. Super happy with my 7600X
@ronzerker390
Ай бұрын
I'm currently building a 7600x pc. I got 7600xt, 5600mhz 32gb ram 46cl(bad), and a b650m from gigabyte. The cooler I bought doesn't fit in the case so I'm going to buy a smaller one and install everything when it comes
@peytonembaugh1484
Ай бұрын
@ronzerker390 I would went with a more powerful graphics card at that price range honestly
@peytonembaugh1484
Ай бұрын
@@ronzerker390 also get better ram don't sell yourself short save a little more
@robmoab3410
Ай бұрын
@peytonembaugh1484 I'm running a RX6800. Over 144 frames at 1440P all day no problem.
@orion9k
29 күн бұрын
I am still using my intel 4790k for gaming, waiting for 9800x3d because I want the CPU to be set for 500hz monitors in the future.
@jcnikoley
Ай бұрын
I picked up a 7800x3d in June for $340. No regrets.
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Nice!
@weirdodude1173
Ай бұрын
I just got my 9700X build going last night. It works good for Stable Diffusion, general internet browsing/videos and moderate gaming. 7800X3D is still faster in gaming and other processors are a better value in price to performance, but Zen 5 is not bad at all. I'm happy with it, overall. Thumbs up for helping me to pick great parts for a smooth, cool build!
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
That's great to hear! Congrats on your build!
@jones-5684
Ай бұрын
I’ve been here around the time you had 10k subs and WOW has your channel grown. You’re almost at 500k! Congratulations bro you deserve it.
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for going on the journey with us! We sure do appreciate it
@obayalharbi82
Ай бұрын
for the efficiency part, the new 9000x series are just regular non x series renamed to x, because they want you to compare non x series efficiency to x series efficiency
@tilapiadave3234
Ай бұрын
Madness of the X ,, and XT ,, AND xtx ,,, xxttxx xxxtttxxxtxtxxx
@optimarocks
Ай бұрын
I've just finished building my first PC with your help, thanks for all your videos, always incredible useful! And after watching this I'm glad that I didn't wait and went with the ryzen 7600 (with the radeon 7900 gre). Thanks!!
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Congrats on your build!! So glad we could help. Show off a build pic if you like on twitter/threads @pcbuilderjason
@HaragothNAR
Ай бұрын
I was basing my entire spending plan off AMD having a killer launch and bringing down previous gen prices, this really screws things up. Hopefully something happens over the next four months to bring those prices back down.
@thegamingwolf8755
Ай бұрын
Good video, cant say i disagree on the pricing for the least CPUs on AMD. As a Example. I bought the AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 6 For $274.55 original price $388.55 "Open Box" At Canada Computers in Canada. For some strange reason Canada Computers has another version of the CPU with a similar price. Likely not "Open Box" Original pricing. $409.00 On Sale $289.00. Almost 300 dollars which for the Ryzen 5 i did like the pricing drop otherwise its very likely i wouldn't had bought it. AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core/16-Thread costs around $528.98. For me the Ryzen 7 costs a bit more then the Ryzen 5 7600X I wish the 7800X3D was cheaper lol
@gman9552
Ай бұрын
I have been thinking on buying the board and ram so long due to possible stock issues then wait for the 9800X3D. After seeing my local pricing for the 9600x and 9700x I estimate it may not be worth waiting for the 9800X3D. Everyone waiting for the X3D variant and AMD knows it. Guess I will be holding back until the dust settles or get the 7800X3D only with a price cut. The X3D will be the cash cow for sure...
@zicafoos8260
Ай бұрын
If I can get lower temps for the same performance then I’m all for it Not trying to hotbox my office
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Ryzen 7000 is just as easy to cool to be honest
@mtrps_
Ай бұрын
got ryzen 5 5600 for $117 back in may, thank god
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Nice!
@catbertz
Ай бұрын
I continue to appreciate your analysis of pc component releases, and your comparisons using common sense and very clear insights into the nitty-gritty matchups. Super useful for this long time pc builder who doesn't have the time for my own deep research.
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for the feedback! It really means a lot
@jony_tough
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the sum up! 7900x being cheaper than 7800x3d is crazy.
@FireCestina1200
Ай бұрын
France update (from Amazon) 7600X ±215,87€ 9600X 352,04€ 780X3D 411,50€ 9700X 445,75€ Note that the 7600X and 7800X3D have never been this low in France (except the 7800X3D during the Prime Day)
@hamslice839
Ай бұрын
Ryzen reminds me of intel's 4-core 14nm++++++ run. Single digit to no improvement year over year. Really disappointing that CPU's are once again boring. Lets hope we get some better GPU's.
@zonemanbobo
Ай бұрын
After the reviews I picked up a 7800X3D. My frames went up a lot in most my games for sure. I just don't like the temps. They bounce around a lot.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
The temps will bounce around a lot when you're doing things but if you think the cooling is not properly working check your setup, mounting pressure, airflow, fan curve etc.
@lolmao500
Ай бұрын
In canada prices are still crap. AMD has an event on august 23. Hopefully they announce the X3D cpus.
@Iamtheexile
Ай бұрын
Hey, one change you should do is add ryzen 7500f for comparisons. For all the rest,great video.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Sadly its not available in my market (the US)! Otherwise I would.
@SpoonHurler
Ай бұрын
Tell Lisa to sell it here in the States... but she'd only give MicroCenter 69 of them and call it a day 😂
@P5YKOTIK1870
Ай бұрын
BTW love the comment about the efficiency, Would've loved to see the 9700x with a higher TDP, AMD really "screwed the pooch" with this one
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Agreed, its very frustrating
@electricpaper269
Ай бұрын
If you prefer the IPC gains to give more performance instead of efficiency, then just enable PBO.
@Raphmatic5000
Ай бұрын
Literally on my way not to pick up a 7800x3d bundle at microcenter and finish my build today! Thanks for all the info Jason!
@evilleader1991
Ай бұрын
You are in good hands, this guy legit gives some of the best pc hardware recommendation i've ever seen. And I watch a lot of youtube pc hardware channels
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
What are your pc specs,
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Nice! Congrats on your build! Show off a build pic if you like on twitter/threads @pcbuilderjason Id love to see it!
@j.p.h.8126
Ай бұрын
The 9700X is more expesive then the 7800X3D in my region and its slower. It is more efficient and runs cooler out of the box but i think its not worth it. Im going to wait for the X3D variants and the new motherboards. Maybe there will be a bigger difference in performance in the future.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Sounds like a plan!
@j.p.h.8126
Ай бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel Yeah i have 2 Intel systems a 12th gen and 13th gen. I was going to uppgrade the 12th gen to Ryzen 9000 and change to DDR5 since that system is still using DDR4. I hope the X3D variants will be a lot faster in games but we shall see. 🙂
@Demonoid1990
Ай бұрын
I'm kinda hoping Nvidia's RTX 5000 GPU's aren't going to be delayed by too much.. Seeing the leaks/rumors of RTX launch being pushed back to Q2 2025. That would certainly put a hamper in doing an all next gen build this year.. If worse comes to worse I'll get a current Gen GPU as I dont want to wait that long. I already delayed my build plans for earlier this year in spring because next gen stuff was only a couple seasons away, or so I thought. Then summer arrives and the entire tech industry just implodes with RMA scandals, lawsuits/antitrust, delays, ect... Maybe if Battlemage comes in early, and at a low price I can just get that as an intermediary.(I've always wanted to tinker with Arc) Probably won't be the greatest for a 4k TV, but I still want to wait for that 5090 or maybe a Titan... Either way I don't want to end up with a half build pc missing a GPU here in Oct/Nov and then have to wait an additional 4-6 months for the damn GPU. If that indeed ends up being the case. This whole launch cycle is all outta sync. Hopefully Battlemage launches before CES, could hopefully improve GPU pricing going into the Holiday season. Certainly looking like RDNA 4 and RTX 5000 will most likely debut at CES unfortunately. Patience is a virtue, patience is a virtue, patience is a virtue.... dag nabit! 😬
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Just get the 4090 high end build now and if you need the 5090 and a newer cpu you can sell the old stuff and upgrade
@Demonoid1990
29 күн бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy I'm still gonna wait for at least Intel 15th Gen before I build. I've still got my laptop to carry me till then. As for a GPU, I'll make that decision when I get there. If Battlemage launches at/near the same time I may try it out for a bit, depends on the reviews. If it has comparative performance to the RTX 4070 Super, AMD 7800 XT or XTX I may run with it. All kinda in the air atm. Just gotta wait at least until Arrow lake launches, then figure it out from there. I've been a PC enthusiast since 1999 due to my dad lol. Not my first rodeo with wonky release cycles. 30 year old something dude gonna be giggling like a toddler with fresh silicon to unbox lol.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
@Demonoid1990 ha ha sounds like a plan.
@bakulboro2292
Ай бұрын
After releasing amd zen 5 . Pc industry becomes more interesting. Now whole year we gonna see intel vs amd . It's beneficial for youtuber as well . Yo
@ds4081
Ай бұрын
If you are coming from a 5000 Series AMD, the 9000 is a big uplift. Well Worth it. I think I will go with a 9950x from a 5950x.
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
The question is, is it enough of an uplift as opposed to just going for a 7950X to make the money worth it?
@bjarnis
Ай бұрын
Ordered a 7800x3d a few days ago, suspect they will go up a lot in price when they run out of stock.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if they continue to go up in price
@cory0778
Ай бұрын
I am so glad I didn't wait. Let's see what the X3D brings.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Yes! Fingers crossed people took advantage of the earlier deals
@jackkunasaki5044
Ай бұрын
Really hope that the x3d models are a +15% more faster than the 7800x3d and cheaper. Already have my motherboard and case ready; Just waiting for the rtx 5k series to drop and waiting for black friday/cyber monday
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Would love to see a nice boost from them for sure!
@DJ-fw7mi
Ай бұрын
My R7 5700x3d 200$ and RX 7900xt 650$ was the best upgrade after my 7 year platform R7 1700 and GTX 1080ti. AM4 X470 was a god send. Gave the cpu and gpu to my brother he got a b450 and 750 watt PSU hell peobably get a 5700x3d this xmas since he loves Cyberpunk, God of War, and Hogwarts at 1440p.
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Nice!
@DakHimself
Ай бұрын
Love the news monthly vids👍
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@brandond2868
Ай бұрын
Great video thanks. I am in the market for a new computer to handle all my trading activities, while also gaming with my kids. I am ruling out intel for now and was hoping this chip would do the trick, but maybe not. What do you recommend for running multiple demanding applications and gaming?
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
What is your budget?
@brandond2868
29 күн бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy Whatever it takes to get the job done well. It will be a business expense, but I don't want to overspend for the sake of spending. I don't want to be wasteful. I was looking at a falcon nw, at 4K+ but it seems I could get a NZXT for 1000 to 1500 less. I will be running apps like interactive brokers, think or swim, and lots of browser web apps. Then playing fortnite at night. Leaning towards AMD right now.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
@@brandond2868 I would go with a 4090 build with a 7950x3d cpu. Do you need help with the parts?
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
@brandond2868 you can get the 7950x3d and the 7900xtx or the 7950x3d and the 4090. Do you need help with a parts list or do you have all of the parts picked?
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
It depends on your budget/build needs but it sounds like a 7800X3D build would be great for you. Don't go 7950X3D or 7900X3D because they have performance issues compared to a 7800X3D. See our Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024 video, I think that will help you decide what you need
@JoeyG1985
Ай бұрын
Thank you, Jason, for reminding me about the bios update.
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Happy to help!
@mick0781
9 күн бұрын
Props to you and the great content. Greetings from Germany 👍🏻
@PCBuilderChannel
6 күн бұрын
Thank you so much, glad you're enjoying the channel! Hello from the States :))
@ashdoglsu
Ай бұрын
The 7800x3d was priced at $309 on Amazon 2 separate times Monday and Tuesday. I ordered it both times but the order was cancelled by seller both times shortly after purchase. I finally got it for $366.
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Always check the seller on Amazon, those were likely scam sellers sadly
@Hexenkind1
Ай бұрын
Cannot wait for "X3D". Those are the really important chips. Everything else can suck for all I care. :D
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Yeah exactly.
@marks9233
Ай бұрын
Love your enthusiasm AND quantitative approach. You seem like you genuinely want to help people, which is really cool. Erm...really? The 7900X3D only 4 points lower in gaming than the mighty 7800X3D? Seems off to me. I didn't think I'd still be considering 7000s. BUT, we will see next week. I WANT TO BELIEVE! I soo agree that efficiency is sorta stupid as a primary desktop CPU attribute (below 253 W). Just turn off the lava lamp or something while gaming. haha Seems like there is a lot of OC headroom on the 9700 tho. I mean, why introduce Curve Shaper for this series??? AMD might have sandbagged (like with PBO on the 7900 non-x) to steer peeps towards the pricier stuff. Do you really think Der Bauer would compare a non-PBO CPU to a PBO'd CPU? Thermal Grizzly is all about being hardcore OC smart. He said he had more work to do tho. Thanks for all you do! =) Hi to the cats
@zeidel01
Ай бұрын
ryzen 9000x series should have just been 9000 non-X with lower price. people are more inclined to buy the x3d instead of this
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Yep
@mdell002
28 күн бұрын
I just was able to pick up a 7600x from Micro Center in Denver for $98! Love it!
@PCBuilderChannel
27 күн бұрын
Nice!
@diceykbm
26 күн бұрын
Jason you good that intro u seemed a bit tired and sleep deprived u good?
@John-Wolfe
Ай бұрын
Why is it that the biggest problem for AMD launches is AMDs prior generation? We saw this with the 7000 series launch being first on AM5, we saw this with the 7000 series GPUs, and now this. I have a few requests out to build pcs right now, and unless we see some great value in the upper 9000 series chips, im building with 7000 cpus and putting more money into other components. My personal builds will be waiting for the x3d builds as there isnt a point to me downgrading to a non x3d 9000 cpu.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
What are you going to upgrade in your personal build?
@Bulkyninja
Ай бұрын
Me when I built my pc with 7800x3d for 329 20$ off when you buy and SSD and motherboard bundled together at microcenter. I dont plan on upgrading for another 4 to 5 years.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
What are your specs?
@Bulkyninja
29 күн бұрын
@MrAnimescrazy currently a Sapphire 7900xtx Nitro +, 7800x3d, MSI 670e tomahawk, 32gb ddr5 temgroup rgb 6000mhz cl 30, 2tb nvme sk hynix, 6tb toshiba HDD, Deepcool PQ1000M, lian li galahad II trinity and a standard EVO fan setup. Spent all together about 2100, not including the monitor.
@John-Wolfe
Ай бұрын
I just want to say that i love these vids as well as your boost your build ones. They help a lot when it comes to trying to choose between all of the pc options for most people.
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Thank you for the feedback! Its really helpful to hear
@CaLiKiLLa01
Ай бұрын
Not complaints on the 7800x3d will see what the 9800x3d has to offer also the 5090 before replacing my 4080 super.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Yup I am waiting for the 9800x3d and the 5090 3rd party testing.
@Arkangel0187
Ай бұрын
Thank the gods I recently picked up a 12600KF instead of a 13th or 14th gen! This Intel business really sucks, 13th gen has been out for a while now hasn't it??? Why are we just seeing these problems now?
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
We saw it first in the 13900K and 14900K, but now its becoming clear its a problem down the line.
@xDAKPRODUCTIONSx
Ай бұрын
With ryzen 9000 not being very good I don't know what to do coming from an old platform that I would be looking to pair with a $$300-$600 GPU at 1440p (with a micro center available). I was hoping I would just be able to get a 9700x micro center bundle for like $400 and have it nearly match the performance of a 7800x3d but that won't be the case
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Get the 5700x3d or the 5800x3d or the 7800x3d.
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
5700X3d is a great choice if you are on AM4. See our "how to upgrade your pc" video for more
@xDAKPRODUCTIONSx
28 күн бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel I’m coming from an i7 4790
@watersMO
Ай бұрын
Do you think B850/X870 boards will benefit Zen 5 more than Zen 4, perhaps better defining the performance gap between the two?
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
I don't sadly. But maybe a bios update down the road will help
@SpoonHurler
Ай бұрын
I think it's possible looking at the past when you look at 300/400 series boards to 500 series but that had more to do with AMD sourcing the chipsets in house finally. I think it could help get better memory timings but on 9600X and 9700X I doubt many people will spend money on kits capable of increasing performance. Maybe tightly timed 6400 CL32 though... I'm interested in seeing how it turns out.
@torshec8634
Ай бұрын
Still on the bench about the Ryzen 9000 series and as seen with most reviewers they expected more from AMD, from total victory against to just going for "We're not Intel". Going to have to try to RMA my 13900K.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
I know! It was such a moment for AMD to shine. Best wishes with your 13900K
@ragreen2
Ай бұрын
Ouch! 😯 Best of luck with the 13900K RMA ... May the odds be ever in your favor 🫡
@Sybertek
Ай бұрын
Your camera has amazing quality. What are you using? Overall, I think the 9000 series is being compared to the wrong 7000 counterpart given the voltage. I say compare the same voltage part between the two families (9700X with 7700 non X). Hope to see something better, but ill continue using 5800X3D for now.
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Thank you! We just upgraded our camera setup with a Sony ZV- E1
@Antonis24
Ай бұрын
In my eyes, the Ryzen 5 9600X with its 65W TDP and $280 MSRP, replaces the Ryzen 5 7600 which had a much lower MSRP of $229, i.e. a $51 price hike, which is unacceptable. Same goes for the Ryzen 7 9700X.
@tilapiadave3234
Ай бұрын
LMAO ,, get a mental health check ,, your brain has been infected with AMD shill disease
@45eno
Ай бұрын
AM5 for me is either 7600x or 7800x3D. 7500F would be on this short list if available through regular retailers.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Get the 7800x3d
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
The best choice will depend on your budget and GPU! See our Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024 video for more
@45eno
27 күн бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy I did, I have 3 of each. About ready to get a 4th 7600X in a $500 custom PC that the parts right now equal $931 on Amazon. All new parts except a placeholder RX570. Going to pull that CPU and complete another B650 Aorus Elite home build. Save the board/ram for a rainy day when I come across a dirt cheap 7500F/7600. Put my shop PC's guts 5700x/B550/32gb/6600XT in it and sell it back off for $500.
@MrAnimescrazy
27 күн бұрын
@@45eno nice.
@themc.kennyshow6585
29 күн бұрын
You now do videos at greater resolutions than 1080p!!
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Yes! 4k now!
@hersonaguilar2443
27 күн бұрын
Awesome video concise and very informative, thank you for these great summaries
@PCBuilderChannel
26 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching
@jason.rhuang8169
29 күн бұрын
As someone who use Intel cpu for the longest time, and recently try to build my first PC, I can't tell you enough how helpful this is. I was planning to go with i7-13700+RTX 4070 combo. But after watching this video, I decided to swap them with r7 7600x+RX7800XT, and a MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi board. Thank you for your this great guide, looking forward to your future video!
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for supporting the channel! So glad we could help! The 7600X/ 7800XT is a great choice! Best wishes on your build and let us know how it goes
@hopin8krzys
Ай бұрын
I've been collecting parts for the new pc for past few months. In july there was a deal on 7800x3d, only 1350pln. But I thought it was still too high, and I wanted to get aio and mobo first. Of course, shortly after the deal ended, this entire shitstorm with Intel started and ryzen 9000 was delayed... Now the lowest price for 7800x3d is over 1600pln, with no deals in sight. It's a disaster for me, I literally have all other parts but cpu. And I don't know what to do, keep waiting for at least 1400pln price, bite the bullet and just pay almost 1700pln, consider going for 9700X?
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
I would get the 7800x3d.
@hopin8krzys
29 күн бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy that is still my plan, but prices are stupidly high. I'm honestly considering just getting the cheapest am5 cpu, which are massively discounted now, and waiting for 9000x3d. It would be an improvement over my current cpu anyway
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
@@hopin8krzys ok sounds like a plan.
@hoda09000
20 күн бұрын
This video was of a great help, Thanks a lot
@PCBuilderChannel
20 күн бұрын
Glad it helped! Thank you for watching
@terrafair3248
Ай бұрын
Building my first pc as well trying to make it under 500
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Under $500 is rough with new parts, you'll likely need to go used which other channels cover. But we have our Best Budget Gaming Builds 2024 video with a $550 sample build with all new parts
@terrafair3248
Ай бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel i managed to get a seasonic gx-750 for 31 bucks and asrock a520m-hdv for 30 bucks
@terrafair3248
Ай бұрын
@@PCBuilderChanneli managed to get a seasonic gx-750 80+ gold for 30 bucks and a asrock a520m-hdv for 33 bucks
@kelley09162
Ай бұрын
@@terrafair3248 unfortunately A520 Motherboards aren't any good. Nobody recommends them. That's probably why you were able to get it cheap.
@Chris-wu2hc
19 күн бұрын
I have a 5700X3D coming for $183 CAD. Seemed too good to pass up as a drop in upgrade for my existing PC.
@PCBuilderChannel
17 күн бұрын
Nice! See our "how to upgrade your pc 2024" video if that's helpful
@lonniebeal6032
9 күн бұрын
I have 5 pcs, they all are doing their jobs just fine. I don't see a reason to upgrade for sometime. Got a 5900x, 2700x. 1650v2, i5-2500, and i7-2600
@radupopescu4241
Ай бұрын
I just live these videos ! Great one Jason . Thanks !
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Thank you! So glad you are enjoying (:
@danz409
29 күн бұрын
my thoughts exactly. if they would of stuck to the original leaked prices, $400 for the 9900x than the prices would be more reasonable. but jacking up another $50-$60 for the chips because they KNOW intel is in hot water is a asshole move. you seriously think the 2 week delay was because of a typo. nope. it was pricing adjustments.
@briand2614
Ай бұрын
Anandtech correctly compared the 9700X to the non-X 7700. Meaning the 9700X seems way overpriced to me.
@josecorrales7195
Ай бұрын
Yes and a 7700 non x is like 180$ on on AliExpress 😂 I own one and it's pretty dam good considering the 7600x was $220 when I bought my CPU months ago
@Jdebrusk987
Ай бұрын
I'm really hoping AMD will not make the same mistake with the 12 and 16 core CPU of the 9000 series.
@FJoeBrainDeadBiden
Ай бұрын
It's ok but not worth the price difference, of course they wouldn't release the x3d versions because they want to sell these first.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Frustrating strategy for sure!
@basicpshychology
Ай бұрын
Hello quick question. I build a new PC, my plan is 5700X3D, 7800XT. Is the combo future proof? If not i would need to go AM5, which in my budget(and the prices in my country) would leave me with a R 5 7600x and a 7700XT. I think even tough it's AM4 my first choice is stronger for gaming, though? Thank you in advance.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Its not "future proof" because that is the end of the line in terms of CPU upgrades possible. But you could upgrade the GPU in the future. But my two cents is the best "future proofing" is to build the strongest pc you can right now with the budget you have. So if staying in AM4 gets you a stronger GPU that's a solid option
@danielhulan3058
Ай бұрын
I love how you put logic behind your claims. You use numbers to back up what you say while other content creators use emotions or they dont provide their reasoning.
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate the feedback
@arutezza
Ай бұрын
i was debating on waiting for ryzen 9000 but seeing as theres hardly any improvement at all im pretty happy with my 7800x3d, ill upgrade when we can have something more significant than zen5%, heck in some cases the 9000 version performs worse than it s 7000 counterpart its basically a repeat of what happened on their radeon division with the 7000 gpus
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
That 7800X3D is a great choice, I'd hold for sure
@wyrmhand
Ай бұрын
For the algorithm and the almighty Mr. Bear Have a fantastic day!
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Mr Bear thanks you!
@os_r1ck
Ай бұрын
I like the Dumb & Dumber reference. LOL
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
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@ragreen2
Ай бұрын
Really good information in this episode! I have a 7600 with a 7900 GRE and I'm getting great price to performance. I'll probably consider another AM5 CPU in 2025/2026, but more for productivity than gaming, since I'm not CPU bottlenecked right now. Even then the 7600 works really good for my current productivity needs (my previous PC was AM4 5700x/RX 6600). I agree on waiting for 9000 series for now unless someone needs whatever productivity performance the 9900x or 9950x might have when they launch on 8/15 (but still a wait - if a short one - until the reviews come in).
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@shawnmorrow8350
Ай бұрын
I'm sticking with my 5800x and 5600x in our computers and the 12600k I have in the HTPC. I won't be upgrading to AM5 for a while but feel good I will be able to get a reasonably priced second hand CPU. So I will probably not upgrade for 3-5 years. I may upgrade the 5600x to a 5800x3D before a platform upgrade.
@MrGivesuccess
Ай бұрын
i wonder if the 9000s will work any better in the new 8xx mobos?
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Highly unlikely sadly. But a future bios could unlock more performance
@maisonveveysemaisonveveyse
Ай бұрын
Great Video JASON - Thank you ! However, CONFUSION here - stuck on AM4 platform, have Ryzen 5600x CPU with Radeon RX 6800.... DO I buy a Ryzen 5700 X3D or 5800 X3D ???? Just HOW much performance difference IS there between 5700 X3D and 5800 X3D ????? Are both capable of a bit of video editing to go along ???? Which one makes SENSE ?????
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
5800X3D looks like it has almost no stock left, thus this crazy high prices on it. 5700X3D is just as good IMO for about $200. Very small difference with a RTX 4090, never notice it with a 6800.
@Alan-rt3se
28 күн бұрын
Of course the prices will drop after the initial release is over. The current prices are to take advantage of those early adopters who have to have the newest thing right away. I'll bet they will lower the prices of the 9000s by Black Friday.
@hazaggi9228
Ай бұрын
Still waiting for 13900kf replacement here, in case they don't send replacement I dunno what I'll upgrade to
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Frustrating! Sending good wishes for it.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
You can upgrade to the 7800x3d.
@TheUnkow
Ай бұрын
If they put up 9600 and 9700 (without X) and they use even less power, it will be a real comeback. The X3D for now will only be able to save the series, not elevate them after what happended with the X.
@JLC1987
Ай бұрын
Hi! Always glad to see new videos!
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Hello!
@scotttravis6567
Ай бұрын
My son's 13600k is running fine for now, but we're keeping an eye on it. My 12600k is running like a champ. Plan b if we have issues is to switch to amd.
@MaryannLynch-z9c
Ай бұрын
Would say HODL for those on a recent system 9600X/9700X maybe should have been non X. Intel microcode fix might just slow down 13th/14th degradation from what is being said. Lucked out on 12th.
@ashr
Ай бұрын
Based on your own parameters of >= 160, the 9700x should have showed up on the high performance at 160 points? I'm guessing it is a rounding thing and barely missed out? Still the 7800X3D is the obvious better buy, but just saying, It maybe should have made it to the high performance section?
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
It's a calculated score and it is 159.6 which is rounded up, however the filter reads it as 159.6 so that is less than 160. I'll fix for next time.
@michaeloneill1360
Ай бұрын
Hey Jason, I picked up the Gigabyte AM5 650 Eagle Motherboard & a 32 Gig 6000 Mhz. Kit for: $318.00 Cad. before Tax!! If I go with the Ryzen 5 7600 like you recommended, will I be OK using my AMD Wraith Prism Cooler ?? Thanks! Also they have an 'Open Box' Ryzen 5 7600 for: $256.00 Cad. before Tax! Hopefully they'll still have It at End of August = Payday!!
@PCBuilderChannel
28 күн бұрын
Yes thats a good combo!
@michaeloneill1360
28 күн бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel Thanks, just finished Q Flash of the Motherboard BIOS to most current version!
@kingofwolves9536
28 күн бұрын
Will the 9000x3d be worth the price tag? Likewise, do you feel the B650 motherboard series will have good longevity, or should we wait for the B850? I watched your videos, but I wanted to ask since new information can lead to a change of opinion.
@PCBuilderChannel
27 күн бұрын
No way to tell at the moment but gosh I hope so. No I don't think the B850 boards will make any difference and I'm pretty sure they will also be stupid expensive. See our Best Ryzen 9000 Motherboards video for more
@Lukes-PC-Flips
Ай бұрын
I just found an i7 8700 with an Asus MOBO and 16GB of ram all for $100. I’d like to build a pc using all this. What NVIDIA GPU should I get? The seller had an RYX 2080 Super with it. Should I go for something similar?
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