TUP Scott vs. Miniac Scott are two very different alignments
@tjduprey
Жыл бұрын
As a fine artist, what I love about minis is the lack of deciding subject and composition on the blank canvas. I still have to think about color schemes, shading, I have the subject given to me though. I go back to fine art refreshed.
@ReplicatorFifth
Жыл бұрын
same! I'm a traditional artist who got into Mini painting (not a particular good one, but I enjoy abstract for the reason you mentioned liking Mini painting) It very relaxing just slapping on color on a mini and working out a color scheme and lighting is very relaxing and has helped me become a better artist all around
@seanmcgrath2049
Жыл бұрын
I really really really really really really really need the Ball of Snakes Kickstarter to happen. Seriously. Do it. Please. Have Scott do a full-on April 1st video to accompany it saying how he's approaching the Ball of Snakes, the things he wants to accomplish with it, how he's challenging himself with such a unique sculpt, etc.
@antihero7028
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout, super excited for the Underworlds tournaments at LVO hope to see you guys there!
@STOOJIE
Жыл бұрын
Off work for 2 weeks and you two drop this on the 1st day. Legends👌.
@R.J.MacReady1982
Жыл бұрын
same 😄
@alexmj597
Жыл бұрын
I guess I'm not totally shocked that Jon didn't love the models for the Stormlight kickstarter, but it did come as a surprise! While they're absolutely not the most detailed models, i dont think theyre the worst ever. I can understand being let down as a fan though, especially cause you had mentioned your interest previously. The series is my favourite fantasy ever, and as an armature painter I couldn't be more excited to paint them. I don't personally agree that they're a rushed job cause they've been worked on for ages with Sanderson himself, and I'm really sad they don't work for you! I wished we had seen more of these models physically, the renders are just not great (let us see them closer!!) I don't love the way the campaign has been run (especially in how hidden stretch goals are) But for me, in my painting journey, they work perfectly. Maybe some really cool 75 mm miniatures could come down the line that would be more to your taste, I hope you as a fan get what you'd like! Totally respect your opinion. I recommend you look through the updates page and see some of the design work and check out people who have painted the models, but I'm not trying to change your mind.
@alexmj597
Жыл бұрын
I hope this didn't come off as dismissive or anything! Just wanted to offer a response to what you said
@tBauncer
Жыл бұрын
I see trapped under plastic, I click it...
@seandraper150
Жыл бұрын
3 minutes uploaded and 3 likes already... How do we know they didn't tank this one?
@JakeDogg-RIP
Жыл бұрын
@@seandraper150 even bad TUP is still a good TUP! 😉👌🥰🐶
@jc7997aj
Жыл бұрын
@@seandraper150 i feel like if they put themselves sleeping on the podcast for 2hrs id prolly hit the like button 🤣. If noting else just as thank you for past content.
@sushimandaddi
Жыл бұрын
Billion Dollar Clown Farm HAS TO BE chaotic good, shout out Tyler!
@PeterIsATeacher
Жыл бұрын
I would say chaotic neutral, they are wholesome playing warhammer at a restaurant but it takes a certain level of madness to willingly paint and film a video while waiting for a friend in a car. Or like, making rules into a heavy metal song
@milgram12
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon. I was pretty underwhelmed by the Stormlight Archive miniatures, but felt kind of obligated since I love the books and love miniatures. Your rant set me free and I can see the emperor is naked, and I don’t need to buy in to mediocre.
@garyjenson8262
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I got problems Jon, we all got problems; and a trapped under plastic sandwich is my medicine.
@equos5060
Жыл бұрын
This podcast is the exact amount of "yeah dude" and "wow dude" I needed :D Thanks!
@AubLambe
Жыл бұрын
My #1 Bucket List item is to paint a large model without cutting corners. Like that Orc riding that dragon. Been stuck in doing Army painting for the last 2 years and its been fun but I want to change it up. Less paint to play more paint to paint
@joegkushner
Жыл бұрын
Games Plus in Mt Prospect IL carries a wide range of AK paints. There are several online vendors that sell them as well.
@EricHartis
Жыл бұрын
At 52:01 when Jon says “invagining”… 😂
@michaelthebarbarian5527
Жыл бұрын
John I was unimpressed by the SLA minis too. Unfortunately the company said they worked in conjunction with Brandon Sanderson to design them.. so we may be picturing the works better than he does lol
@TheClassicWorld
Жыл бұрын
I started to read some of Sanderson, but it seems very generic fantasy setting-driven stuff -- and endless pages of it. Some of his lectures are good, though. He seems cool, overall, also. No idea on the models (though I also heard he made a comic book. Not sure how good that is, either).
@wylie4440
Жыл бұрын
"Number One?", "Nah, I gotta DewDew, a real bajablast!"
@DruryHall
Жыл бұрын
I concur John on the models for Stormlight big giant flop
@JohnathanJWells
Жыл бұрын
Someone should tell Jon that the SLA designs are not only designed in conjunction with Brando, but that the shard plate design has been canonized that way since words of radiance (check the sketches). I personally don't like the shard plate and swords (though everyone else in regular clothing looks fine to me), but I think we forget that most writers are not necessarily good at character design
@dnschappler
Жыл бұрын
I've been on the fence about the Stormlight models because I am a MASSIVE fan, but I haven't pulled the trigger because I am very underwhelmed too. I think I'll just buy the Steve Argyle prints instead
@frederikschulze8218
Жыл бұрын
Trapped Under Dog Farts, the podcast for the Leagues of Space Dwarves enthusiasts
@50Caldemigod
Жыл бұрын
I'm a pinstriper, garage artist, and custom painter who dabbles in miniature painting. Got my start being challenged to gold leaf some small space marine pauldrons. I will say that once you get to a certain level or start chasing a certain level techniques and technical skill are an absolute must. Style will come from stealing, mixing, and creating your own ways to get a result you don't know the process to. Although there is a real appreciation for craft and artistry there are so many sects that aren't even considered as "real art" like blue chip galleries. Also not to get too Woowoo when you call something out to the universe and start the run towards it you gotta hang on and roll out no matter what.
@JakeDogg-RIP
Жыл бұрын
🎉🎊 TUP TUP TUP 🎊 🎉
@zramirez5471
Жыл бұрын
Fwiw, I love goobs, he seems like the kind of dude no one could not like, but let's be real: if goobs was a miniature, he'd be a bad headswap between a Forrest elf and a classic barbarian. And the Forrest elf is from a series with cartoon styling
@Scherdnr
Жыл бұрын
I love the progress Jon is making to sounding more and more like an old, grumpy man screaming at the sky about how everyone is doing it wrong.
@dazwats123
Жыл бұрын
You pair never fail to put a smile on my face 😁
@billdefranza4927
Жыл бұрын
27:32 mischief managed. 👍
@chaoticpainting1507
Жыл бұрын
I hope I get to see you guys next year at Adepticon, I missed it last year unfortunately. It'll be cool to come out and support the show! 🤘🏼
@Ninjon
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you at the live show!
@chaoticpainting1507
Жыл бұрын
@@Ninjon dude I wanted to meet you and Scott both but never managed to run into you. I'll make it a mission next year 🤘🏻
@lgwhittaker1
Жыл бұрын
VooDew was our high school cocktail made with Vodka and Mountain Dew.
@deanlewis8083
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, now I can't pronounce our local annual apple scrapple festival correctly anymore. apple Crapple, Crapple crapple.... 😆
@bryonsmith8494
Жыл бұрын
John needs to design the storm light miniatures. That is a Kickstarter I'd support!
@Ninjon
Жыл бұрын
I'll send Sanderson an email, see what he thinks :)
@mtrox7848
Жыл бұрын
can confirm the football fumble punishment thing...we had a runningback have to do that for a week.
@Frostyeel
Жыл бұрын
Haven't read Stormlight yet so no opinion there, but I loved listening to Jon's rambling angry rant. More of those please!
@Ssking1985
Жыл бұрын
Always a great start to the week with TUP!
@billdefranza4927
Жыл бұрын
TUP: making every other Monday suck 57% less.
@brandonrosell885
Жыл бұрын
So glad you said that Jon. I thought the stormlight minis sucked too and we’re a huge disappointment. My first thought was that someone had made them in heroforge and put them on kickstarter.
@GirlPainting
Жыл бұрын
My bucket list item would be to first win a golden demon and then 2nd, paint the trophy and enter it the next year ^^
@wylie4440
Жыл бұрын
Snakeball Burgers, coming to a drivethru near you!
@chadreid6287
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you don’t like the Stormlight minis, Jon. For me, the Shardplate looks a lot like the pictures in the book, which were also underwhelming. I think the minis would never live up to our imaginations. Personally, none of the official character art I’ve seen is how I picture the characters, the Voidbringers, the Blades, none of it really. I feel like this Kickstarter is a compromise. We’re not getting amazingly detailed action sculpts of the characters, but we are getting a lot of models for the characters at a pretty reasonable price. And I think the colored-in renders of the models look hella dumb, like somebody just colored them in Heroforge in two minutes. However, I think the lack of detail on them will work as a blank canvas to really show off your paint skill. Really I’m just happy as a fan of Stormlight Archives and a painter to have something like this coming out. I thought the characters would just stay as concepts in my head, but now we get to see a *version* of them in person! I have hopes that this could lead to a TV show somewhere down the line, although I’m sure that’ll stir up more controversy. Love your podcast and your enthusiasm for the books, hopefully you can get Scott to give them a try.
@colbysavell3749
Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, if you ever want to chat about running a con, let me know! I am on the board of a 501c3 organization that runs multiple conventions a year, and have experience running wargaming tournaments, painting contests, and RPG game days. For several years my wife and I ran the weekly 120+ person RPG day at the Reaper Mini Factory. I'm happy to share any knowledge I can with you, and I hope to one day attend Tendycon!
@johnroution8960
Жыл бұрын
You have to review Mountain Dews big brother Ale-8-one. It's our KY crack, especially with a little whisky!
@Rivaldi530
Жыл бұрын
Masterwork Miniatures is legit! Going to buy one now!
@GirlPainting
Жыл бұрын
Basicly life sucks, there is only war and you will probably get.......Trapped Under Plastic! HAVE FUN!
@billdefranza4927
Жыл бұрын
53:10 Snake with bionic legs exoskeleton
@CommanderNemo1
Жыл бұрын
1:42:02 is how I feel about everything steamforged does on FromSoft properties.
@natoman
Жыл бұрын
Thank God Scott has switched to big boy pants.
@TylerProvick
Жыл бұрын
Jon, don't forget that they're also an odd scale so you can't use them in any games. I don't mind 72mm display models but 45mm is an awkward size. Why not 32mm so people can use them for D&D, Frostgrave, Rangers of Shadowdeep, etc.
@rogominis
Жыл бұрын
I think the term "Bucket list" was actually first used in the 2007 movie "The Bucket List" which derives from the popular frase "kick the bucket" AKA dying... in the film i think it says something like "List of Things to Do Before I Kick the Bucket” and then they shortened it to "Bucket List” its one of those frases we dont really have prior record of and after the movies popularity i guess it kinda feels like its always been around, but anyways...and yeah the film is Morgan Freeman and Jack Nicholson
@ionminiatures
Жыл бұрын
I really loved that movie. It was great to see Jack Nicholson and Morgan Freeman in a movie like that.
@jacobkuglar8857
Жыл бұрын
Okay so the Stormlight minis are a real mixed bag, definitely not in terms of quality, they look like cmon level PVC plastics and the sculpts are all very 'soft' in terms of the detail I think we'd want for shard plate and blades. I do know that Brandon was directly involved with the design/creation of the minis though and they're considered 'official renderings' so love it or hate it, that's what that is. If there was infinite time/money I'm sure they'd have gone with high resolution injection molding but I guess the anticipated demand outstripped what they felt 3D printing and sio-cast (or maybe they were unaware since its somewhat new) and went to the lower fidelity of the PVC to be cheaper but still produce in volume. Its less than ideal but I'm happy that I'll have the opportunity to paint up some of my favorite characters.
@yoshiwiseful
Жыл бұрын
Aloha from Oahu!
@Wolfie21384
Жыл бұрын
The dwarf doesn't have a big enough equipment package to be in the League of Voltron 😂
@joelmorris1053
Жыл бұрын
Crapples to Crapples..... Poop jokes are not my favorite, but they are a solid #2. :D
@chrisleerichardson2097
Жыл бұрын
Trapped Under Plastic- The podcast that reminds us that Mountain Dew exists..... oh and sometimes stuff about painting miniatures.
@OldDog.NewTricks
Жыл бұрын
I think the Voo-Dew 2022 tastes like Smarties!
@gatorking215
Жыл бұрын
I would definitely go to a tendicon
@markgnepper5636
Жыл бұрын
Great stuff friends 👏 👍
@thegrumpymanlikestopaint
Жыл бұрын
Mike McVey model of the emperor and horus with a fallen sanguinius
@R.J.MacReady1982
Жыл бұрын
I'll join this patreon. fuck yes.
@Gooch359
Жыл бұрын
Idea for a TUP board game. Zombicide but with mini painting you tubers at Tendicon. Board is a series of stalls, classess and competitions, loot is various minis, hobby tools and merch, characters are obviously you guys in youtube land and instead of zombies its us! We roam arround the stalls and when we get sight of one of our favourite painters we gather to fan gush, bogging the character/s down and preventing them from completing goals and collecting loot. Could call it Tendicide!
@SH43418
Жыл бұрын
@TrappedUnderPlastic what number was on the gravestone on the label? I tried one it had a 4. To me it tasted like Orange Dreamsicle.
@Ninjon
Жыл бұрын
Wait, there's multiple flavor options?!
@SH43418
Жыл бұрын
@@Ninjon I'm guessing so. I figured with that 4 so prominent on the gravestone in the graphic that were multiple flavors. You have a flavor quest now to go check the labels and if there are different numbers on that gravestone trying them all. Now I will note. A Pepsi plant is only 70 miles from where I live. This is a promotional thing right now. But being that close to a plant we are in a test market area.
@SH43418
Жыл бұрын
@Ninjon just heard on the radio. New Holiday flavor Mountain Dew-Fruit Quake...Fruit Cake flavored. Next month.
@darrellclinton2837
Жыл бұрын
New mountain dew reminded me of spite remix
@wanna877
Жыл бұрын
I feel that the reason mini painters care so much bout technique has to do also with the STEM mindset of many mini painters. And that has to do with how this is a nerds hobby; its accesible for people that don't consider themselves artistic.
@bittertentacles
Жыл бұрын
Oh my god yeah I saw this kickstarter just browsing and my immediate reaction was "these look fucking awful I would never buy these." I can't believe how much money they've made on generic heroforge level trash.
@Ninjon
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!
@greglohman6750
Жыл бұрын
They look like rejected wave 1 wizkids models.
@greenmountainmodels
Жыл бұрын
Oh dang I’m pumped for the playdoh snake kickstarter. Do you think they’ll be multi-part kits? Fingers crossed there’s 75mm busts
@manuelprsnl
Жыл бұрын
The reason to not have a standard way of judging miniature painting is that if you always judge in one specific way, you're limiting the art field to painting in the way that pleases the judges. I think it's better for the art that each contest values different aspects.
@MikeGeney
Жыл бұрын
Ayyy Postogor Malogorne got some screen time on TUP!
@MentatOfDune
Жыл бұрын
Re Magnum Opus, I immediately go to McVey's Green Knight.
@matthewsanderson8634
Жыл бұрын
Gimme the play doh snakes
@slow2by2z
Жыл бұрын
Idea for John's Kickstarter. Armored snake: a playdough snake inside a condom.
@furbs178
Жыл бұрын
Sanderson was directly involved in the art process of the models...
@laborc8929
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't find the link to the crapples to crapples ks
@oleww50
Жыл бұрын
Just like to say, voltron, got it from .33 seconds 🤣👌
@EdwinK-13
Жыл бұрын
I love you said the chaotic evil Sith to his lawful evil master. Just because there are two doesn't mean it has to be these two mumbled the chaotic muahahaha. I mean I didn't mean you guys holy s*** if you break up I'll have no friends!
@dougsundseth6904
Жыл бұрын
Soft drinks should be measured on a 5-point scale (no dang decimal points): 1) You can't make me. 2) Am I really that thirsty? 3) If it's already open, I might as well drink it. 4) I'll buy it for variety. 5) It's what I really, really want. NB: This is really about as much precision as you're going to get for most products.
@MultiverseMinis
Жыл бұрын
Jon you guys should go to reaper con theres a canes literally in walking distanc of the convention hotel
@ZachC-130
Жыл бұрын
Loot Studios is my go to by far for D&D
@matthewring8301
Жыл бұрын
Shardplate in my mind is like fantasy mech suits and the swords are massive. The minis are not that!
@frederikschulze8218
Жыл бұрын
Trapped Under Plastic, the podcast for the Play-Doh Snake enthusiast!
@xyceres
Жыл бұрын
Trapped under plastic: Booty boo painting minis is what we want to do.
@NonSleeper_Occasional_Thinker
Жыл бұрын
sorry cant find the link to the plasty Snake game (gonna make you some minis) maybe send them with some candy to make it palatable.
@Vexariongaming
Жыл бұрын
While i totally respect Jons opinion, saying the SLA models dont looks like how they should is kinda wrong since they are actually canon. Brando Sando is heavily involved in the whole thing
@Valreg
Жыл бұрын
Trapped under plastic- where we advocate dipping Canes chicken fingers into Mountain Dew
@billdefranza4927
Жыл бұрын
Soft drink reviews: check out Steve's Soft Drink Shack! That's the real deal. Dew an interview of Steve, have him as a guest.
@ccgear4367
Жыл бұрын
Chaotic Evil dude doesn't give a fuck how it happens or who it hurts. Yup, sounds like the leaker lol.
@maguseverwind7488
Жыл бұрын
a comment about judgement, could be looked at categories based on time put into the subject. so anyone who put 2 hours or so will be fit Into one and let's say a 20 hour or something should be a like a more e pert or what have you
@bloodbathnbeyond
Жыл бұрын
What is an escalation league? This sounds fun where can I get more info?
@theezekarion164
Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool fellas for "Fart Smellas!"
@simonethomson2871
Жыл бұрын
I really hope miniature art doesn't go deep into being apart of the 'art' world. There's such a cliquish, unwelcoming, 'it's only about who you know' aspect of that world that is not present in the miniature community (or at least not pervasive). Recognition, sure, would be nice, but I would not desire the art world at large to consume the miniature art world and make it part of theirs. As someone who came from that world into miniature art, I'd hate to see the toxic behaviors from the art world pervade through our community. Just my personal experience and 2 cents. Otherwise, loved hearing you guys wax on about your aspirations :) Keep up the great work!
@p-thor
Жыл бұрын
yes dew different sections.
@sebastianwei7721
Жыл бұрын
It’s magma opus, obviously 😅
@NonSleeper_Occasional_Thinker
Жыл бұрын
in Canada and Germany LOV are banned as too OP because of their mechanic they can use, so until this gets nurffed the Organizers in Canada and Germany have banned this army from Competitive play, want to squash your buddies at home go for it but dont take it to a tourney in those places, probably more to follow till the balance is restored.
@Rackhamish
Жыл бұрын
Jen's great. Just so you know Scott, her facebook got hacked a couple years back and then a bunch of janky stuff happened with it, could have been from that as opposed to her removing you.
@gbo0000
Жыл бұрын
I'm on the fence about going to LVO (I would only play underworlds), if anyone is looking for a roomate :D
@drzephy
Жыл бұрын
I'm with Jon on the balance thingy, mostly because high level gamers called votann incredibly broken as soon as they read the book. So its not a lack of playtest. Its a lack of development. I feel like they should also get those high lvl players to playtest.
@ionminiatures
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think if you want to enter GoldenDemon…you have to start at least 6 months ahead.
@adamtomlinson918
Жыл бұрын
Magnum Opus: Mike McVey death of the emperor
@applesaucemouse6987
Жыл бұрын
skittles was 2 years ago. this year is sour patch kids
@Gr8KnightGaming
Жыл бұрын
Trapped Under Plastic, the podcast for adults who licked paste and paint as kids and never grew out of it . . .
@caduceus143
Жыл бұрын
Alignment curious - Trapped Under Plastic
@TheTazman49684
Жыл бұрын
Trapped Under Plastic, because Trapped Under Concrete was an epic fail!
@ronnocrd
Жыл бұрын
I listen to this while I'm doing hobby stuff, and occaisonally forget that it's a video and actually respond to my laptop when things get my attention lol.
@zramirez5471
Жыл бұрын
As great as Jon's slapchop videos are, The Goobs has hands down the best analysis of variations on slapchop. Watch Jon and Scott's videos, then treat yourself to The Goobs
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