Looking at 7 songs that faced BIG consequences after plagiarism allegations. I can't help but think a lot of these cases were motivated purely by greed... Maybe I'll make part 2 & look at cases where the artist BEAT the claims (Led Zeppelin, Ed Sheeran, etc.)
@Tyler108x
Жыл бұрын
AGREED
@archangelmusic13
Жыл бұрын
oasis song she's electric is copying the tune of i'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony. by the new seekers, but nobody has noticed that.or mazzy star copying dylan's knocking on heaven's door with their song cry,cry
@danielpatternson6149
Жыл бұрын
@@archangelmusic13 or how Eel's Losing Streak copies The Chipmunk theme from the eighties
@archangelmusic13
Жыл бұрын
@@danielpatternson6149 never heard of eel
@danielpatternson6149
Жыл бұрын
@@archangelmusic13 most of their songs are in the Shrek movies. Losing Streak is at the end of the third one, and I immediately noticed that the chord progression is exactly the same as the chipmunks 80s theme Losing Streak:kzitem.info/news/bejne/zGaH0naunmKUnZw Chipmunks Theme: kzitem.info/news/bejne/sK56nKGjg5OKpKA
@DeusExMacarena99
Жыл бұрын
One of my absolute favorite bits of music trivia is John Fogerty getting sued for sounding too much like himself
@l.salisbury1253
Жыл бұрын
Other good examples of artists plagiarizing themselves: Jethro Tull- "Aqualung" (1971) and "Orion" (1979). And Black Sabbath/Tony Iommi - "Iron Man" (1970) and "Sign of the Southern Cross" (1981)...
@MichaelJDMusic
Жыл бұрын
Same! Frigging love it!
@Robdeltonie
Жыл бұрын
What I find amusing is how the onslaught of copyright lawsuits in recent years over small similarities between songs is that now the music industry is saying that maybe copyright has gone too far. But KZitemrs reviewing music as allowed under fair use? Nope, that's clearly money that belongs to the record labels! Oh, the irony...
@andrewpappas9311
Жыл бұрын
The song that immediately comes to mind is Ice Ice Baby considering it directly takes John Deacon’s bass line from Queen’s Under Pressure but adds one extra note, which still makes Vanilla Ice’s logic of that exact statement incredibly lazy and overall just so fucking stupid. Also in regards to that, I think Roger Taylor said it best; “He’s a white rapper from Florida with a funny haircut, what would you expect?”
@rubywest5166
Жыл бұрын
So Coke claims copyright on Oasis for an ad song, then uses one of Oasis's songs in one of their ads... Which had its *own* copyright issues with Neil Innes!
@abbiee9203
Жыл бұрын
Dua Lipa recently won one of the copyright lawsuits for Levitating 🙌 to put it simply the plaintiffs realized they had no case and dropped. But now she has 2 more against the same song that are equally ridiculous People these days will sue artists for copyright if a song even has the same “vibe” as another and it’s getting ridiculous. There’s only so many notes on a scale, similar sounding songs are going to be inevitable Luckily 99% of the time, it’s either not even gonna go to trial or the plaintiff humiliates themself when it does lol
@davidblankenship7985
Жыл бұрын
As a songwriter I can definitely say copyright lawsuits have gone too far. Unless it is especially egregious it should be fair game. There's only 12 notes!
@jennafishy97
Жыл бұрын
The Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodrigo copyright issue with Cruel Summer was so unneccsarry. I did't realize that shouting vocals could even be copyrighted...
@BG12sofia
Жыл бұрын
It's been two years and I still don't get the deal about Cruel Summer x Deja Vu and Good 4 u x Misery Business.
@maryannappiagyei4277
Жыл бұрын
And paramore. misery business.
@codycoyote7046
Жыл бұрын
you don’t hear the similarity in misery business? I don’t agree with a lawsuit but they are insanely similar.
@zobothehobo
Жыл бұрын
Neither one of them had anything to do with it. Josh Farro brought the Good 4 U lawsuit and Olivia and her team decided to hand out songwriting credits all over the place just in case to cover their ass as a way of avoiding one of these large payouts. Neither Taylor nor Hayley asked for the credit
@maryannappiagyei4277
Жыл бұрын
@@zobothehobo and cruel summer writing. Jack Antonoff and Annie Clark AKA St. Vincent.
@emmanuelbongar7370
Жыл бұрын
You forgot Radiohead, who took inspiration from the song "The Air That I Breathe" for Creep, which lead to a lengthy lawsuit
@BookishRaider
Жыл бұрын
Had no idea that Surfing USA was copyrighted from a Chuck Berry song.
@ninjamage5215
Жыл бұрын
The Verve’s “Bittersweet Symphony” always sticks out to me as an example
@nicholassheffo5723
Жыл бұрын
You forgot to tell the ending of the Harrison suit that had him buying the rights too the Chiffons hit and that was that!
@Chelaxim
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that sampling is what caused Madonna's most provocative album to be banned in a majority muslim country.
@artvjon
Жыл бұрын
Probably the straw that broke the camel’s back I guess
@xenos_n.
Жыл бұрын
I don't know how the Beastie Boys got away with Paul's Boutique.
@jameydunne3920
Жыл бұрын
I know the answer to this one... I think. I remember reading or hearing the answer. The people who made the album asked how much it would cost to use all the samples on this sample heavy album, and got the answer of $100,000. They paid the fee, making it one of the most expensive hip hop/ rap albums at the time. The reason they paid so little per sample was that at the time the copyright holding companies didn't really understand what they were granting until after the fact. Because of its bold sampling style, it became a cult hit more than a commercial success, which wasn't helped either by its upfront production costs. This made the album an initial flop and dinged The Beastie Boys bulletproof commercial record, similar effect to them as Insomniac to Green Day or Pinkerton to Weezer.
@2467deadman
Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t put Down Under by Men at Work on your list. Why it was taken to court for plagiarism (and what caused the owners to get wind of it) is a fascinating story, and quite tragic too as many believe the loss in court is what ultimately led to Men at Work’s lead singer’s addiction problems and eventual death.
@harizonflamingice3167
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, as much as Blurred Lines was considered an inescapable annoying mess of a song that everyone hated, I must have been living under a rock at the time because I've never been forced to confront it. That's honestly the case with most songs and artists people hate, hence why a lot of hated artists I'm pretty indifferent to. But on a separate note, I'd honestly rather have to hear Blurred Lines than Smile by Uncle Kracker any day of the week.
@whenfatkillsfat803
Жыл бұрын
Coldstone is still using that song for their commercials. My ex girlfriend worked there.
@justjoannak
Жыл бұрын
Trust me when I say, Blurred Lines is *WAY* worse than Smile. Especially bc of the music video being as bad as it is
@harizonflamingice3167
Жыл бұрын
@@justjoannak Idk, maybe it's just a case of pick your poison or stuff that annoys most other people to that extent I'm more just indifferent to, but I find Smile way worse.
@MaggieOffutt
Жыл бұрын
This was a great video topic! That last one was quite a story.
@disneyfan8719
Жыл бұрын
I heard Noel Gallagher joked later on that they all drink Pepsi now. 😂 Also, I'm all in for artists and creatives having more creative freedom within their craft (as long as they know what they're doing), and I'm not completely against sexualized music (when it's done right), but I think music has gone WAY too sexual nowadays!
@TheMusicalElitist
Жыл бұрын
No, that was their ex-guitarist, Bonehead.
@disneyfan8719
Жыл бұрын
@@TheMusicalElitist All the sources I've read said it was Noel.
@doctorrobert1339
Жыл бұрын
Another good one from the Hot Ones episode he was in that went something like: ''I was sued by Coke who were broke at the time''
@danielpatternson6149
Жыл бұрын
People seem to forget there were just as many sexual songs back then
@trickynotes9548
Жыл бұрын
The absolute most insane lost case to me is The Most Beautiful Girl In The World by Prince. It prevented the rerelease of The Gold Experience for many years. The songs sound nothing alike at all.
@AlexGilmour
Жыл бұрын
Showing a lot of restraint with only the one oasis track seeing how they could of filled half of the Liston their own.
@artvjon
Жыл бұрын
🤣 had to start with the first…
@TheMusicalElitist
Жыл бұрын
You can do one whole video on Noel/Oasis. And I say that as a fan!
@humberto022
Жыл бұрын
I recommend you listen to PXNDX. They were a mexican pop punk/alternative rock mexican band. With supposedly plagiarism to bands like green day my chemical romance and fall out boy. They were one of the most famous mexican rock bands from the 2000s. Even with all the controvesy they are very beloved and nostalgic for all latin early 30s listeners.
@efficiencygaming3494
Жыл бұрын
I've always found these musical plagiarism cases both interesting and infuriating at the same time. The one I always think of is when The Verve got in trouble because "Bitter Sweet Symphony" used "too much" of an orchestral cover of "The Last Time" by the Rolling Stones. It's worth noting that the guy from the Stones' record label who brought about the lawsuit was known for being a massive douche. Imagine not being able to make any money off your most popular song for 20 years. That's what happened to The Verve... Radiohead got sued because "Creep" sounded too much like "The Air That I Breathe" by The Hollies. They lost the suit (an outcome I very much disagree with), but they later sued Lana Del Rey over her "Get Free" for the exact same reason and won. John Fogerty got sued because his song "The Old Man Down the Road" sounded like CCR's "Run Through the Jungle", a song which he actually wrote and sang but no longer owned the rights to. He was basically sued because he sounded too much like himself! That case is proof of how copyright law can lead to some very unusual situations.
@fnjesusfreak
Жыл бұрын
The rat bastard behind the situation with The Verve was Allen Klein, the very same rat bastard who screwed George Harrison over during the My Sweet Lord lawsuit.
@outthis4094
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the metaphors you use to make the video more alive. Saltier than the dead sea is a really good one XD
@artvjon
Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏 thank you, I try my best haha
@l.salisbury1253
Жыл бұрын
Let's-face-it: if it weren't for Black Sabbath's "children of the grave" (1971), and Fleetwood Mac's "Rhiannon" (1975) we wouldn't have Blondie's "call me" (1980)...
@olganesterowicz
Ай бұрын
Or Uriah Heep's Easy Livin' 😅
@nicholasgeorge4156
Жыл бұрын
Not all of these songs made me think off the supposed songs they ripped off. Not only that but not all of these could have been on purpose. I don’t know how many times I’ve written something only to hear something similar for the first time later on.
@fnjesusfreak
Жыл бұрын
Allen Klein switching sides in the middle of the My Sweet Lord lawsuit was prolly the biggest evidence of all that Klein was a rat bastard.
@notreallyadog9646
Жыл бұрын
The picture you show when you mention Brian Wilson’s dad Murray isn’t Murray, it’s Brian’s grandfather.
@artvjon
Жыл бұрын
Apologies. Hard to verify some of these old pics.
@BrianBurkeProd
Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite albums, Gaucho (Steely Dan) was plagued by many issues, including drug addiction, death, and expenses. But one of the largest reasons was a plagiarism case pertaining to the title track. Keith Jarret (rightfully if I’m being honest) that the song Gaucho ripped off his own track “Long as I’m Living Yours.”
@attusiii
Жыл бұрын
So cool to see someone covering the Fairouz story
@NickFieldMedia
Жыл бұрын
One unexpected twist after the Oasis lawsuit: in 1996, an Oasis tribute band called No Way Sis had a top 40 hit with a cover of... I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing 🤣🤣🤣 They even sang in the chorus, "You can't beat the real thing"!!
@robinchatterjee1519
Жыл бұрын
such a great video, one of your best and loved the depth or research! Enjoyed it a lot jon! kinda sad with george harrison bcos i dont't believe its that similar tbh. Other great ones to include on a part 2 video would include vanilla ice/queen lawsuit and rolling stones/the verve lawsuit, awesome vid as always
@rubyduciel7145
Жыл бұрын
Love your way of presenting all those topics around the release of music and the songs histories, enjoy your videos so much
@artvjon
Жыл бұрын
thank you!!
@jameydunne3920
Жыл бұрын
On the inverse, there is a local artist (at least to me) that had a really smart publishing team. Jeremy Messersmith wrote a song called "Purple Hearts" that had potential sonic parallels to Neil Diamond''s "Sweet Caroline". So his people contacted Neil's people to get signed off that while similar, we wasn't stealing from him. He waited to get the release from them, and then published the album and the song as a single.
@heymistercarter.
Жыл бұрын
It’s interesting how Robin Thicke had been in the industry long before Blurred Lines, and put some quality music out. Yet after his first big hit, he kinda had a heel-turn in the public eye, with this lawsuit against his biggest hit being a major knock against him. And he seemed to suffer from it the most out of anyone. Then the whole Paula Patton fiasco happened, with the subsequent album’s tanking being the final nail in the coffin for him. And now he seems to be considered a borderline one-hit wonder.
@samac4323
Жыл бұрын
I instantly thought The Verve/Rolling Stones "Better Sweet Symphony" situation but I dont know if that counts
@bellas_undead
Жыл бұрын
It should considering that The Verve couldn’t do anything with the song until recently. But I can’t recall if the band was sued or not.
@magusxxx
Жыл бұрын
@@bellas_undead My understanding was they got $1 and The Rolling Stones got all the rest. And it couldn't be re-released even on a greatest hits album.
@bellas_undead
Жыл бұрын
@@magusxxx that’s sounds about right. I knew it was some screwy like that.
@cullipyt
Жыл бұрын
Fucking love Shakermaker
@artvjon
Жыл бұрын
An early years classic
@jordanr.2120
Жыл бұрын
Blurred Lines did something problematic?? Since when??? Who could've expected this???? 🙄
@artvjon
Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t be me
@theprettyoftheodd7997
Жыл бұрын
I find the lawsuit against Blurred Line pretty justifiable considering how much the danceable beat distracts from the gross lyrics. I remember hearing that Men at Work got sued massively for Down Under
@swingcash4920
Жыл бұрын
Great video- Keep em coming! Would love to see your take on bands that “plagiarize” themselves 😏
@py16667
Жыл бұрын
Great video Jon, super fascinating stuff!
@edcooper1471
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@artvjon
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Ed, appreciate your support!!
@jamalwest7658
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations Verve, Bittersweet Symphony is your biggest hit, bad news, all that money will go to these 2 out of work songwriters no one ever heard, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards
@jameydunne3920
Жыл бұрын
And the kicker for me with that song is they were somewhat aware of what they were doing from the start. The Rolling Stones did eventually return the rights of the song back to the Verve, but their kindness was that much of a sacrifice with the amount of royalties it was earning, as since the track was old enough that most of the financial juice had been squeezed out already.
@PatrickCervantez
Жыл бұрын
I understand why people thought Ed Sheeran ripped off Marvin Gaye but I always felt like the song sounded closer to "Waiting On the World to Change" by John Mayer. But all in all... most songs sound similar to some degree. Honestly, I've always wanted to see an artist troll people by blatantly plagiarizing someone.
@iliketrains3495
Жыл бұрын
Noel Gallagher admitted to deliberately copying Imagine for the intro of Don't Look Back in Anger for that exact reason. Which is kind of ironic given he later criticised Green Day for ripping off Wonderwall in Boulevard of Broken Dreams
@Frahamen
Жыл бұрын
That's not even the only Madonna song banned in a country for copyright reasons. Frozen was banned in Begium for a long time too.
@Eclecticompany
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for not covering the whole 'Come as you are' riff palaver. I understood that The Flaming Lips were big fans of the Cat Stevens song; but when you're consciously aware of the similarity, attempts to amend the melody would probably only result in a worse song. A very difficult position. The George Harrison case is interesting because I tend to believe the similarity was subconscious, even though I obviously don't know that. Although ignorance is not considered a viable defence in American law in general; artists are always influenced by what has gone before, so even innovation is the result of influence. Probably why this case dragged on for so long.
@corinnacybele
Жыл бұрын
If you ever do a part two Lil Wayne’s “I Feel Like Dying” definitely deserves a mention. That song was so influential to everything that came after it in hip hop, who knows how much more of an impact it could have had if Weezy was able to release it legally.
@manifestationsofasort
Жыл бұрын
I genuinely don't hear the similarities between The Chiffons and George Harrison. They sound like different songs to me?
@mohasalmedeh2567
5 ай бұрын
Since we talking about THEE LIVING ICON fairuz i suggested anyone to listen to her music her voice is just ethereal ❤
@MedalionDS9
Жыл бұрын
Oasis never hid the fact they ripped off the Coke song for Shakermaker... they were always brazen, and that seemed to rub some people a weird way, most people rip off stuff and never cop to it, they did, so some people dug their flagrant defiant attitude about it.
@TheTrumpReaper
Жыл бұрын
I'm plagiarizing myself, uh uh, I'm plagiarizing myself If I had the eyes I'd ask the world to plagiarize I'd be plagiarizing myself (Sing like John Fogerty to the music of Billy Idol)
@usagiwerd6664
Жыл бұрын
What a real good video
@Tyler108x
Жыл бұрын
People who do bullshit copyright suits ... GO TOUCH FUCKING GRASS. However some of these are very fair. Not all, but some
@RanterInShades
Жыл бұрын
Am I alone in wanting the Blurred Lines case to be reopened in wake of the Ed Sheeran lawsuit?
@artvjon
Жыл бұрын
No, but unfortunately they lost their big Hail Mary appeal so idk if it can be reopened?
@steelcurtain187
Жыл бұрын
My sweet lord is so good
@johnd1464
Жыл бұрын
Oasis seem to have a regular feature on this series for some reason
@artvjon
Жыл бұрын
They just seem to fit so many unique topics
@jackko21
11 ай бұрын
The george harrison song sounds nothing like he so fine
@MegaCunnie
Жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
Жыл бұрын
You can get away with musical plagiarism if you label yourself a mainstream rap/pop act. They seem to get away with it all the time
@jamesheath7601
Жыл бұрын
Oasis stand by me, rips off all the Young dudes
@turboshazed7370
Жыл бұрын
Only one i can recall was Yellowcard trying to sue Juice WRLD even after his passing. I feel like had they been populqr enough they would double down and try to gain clout. But thankfully they were treated as everyone's spittoon by anybody who could see right through their bs.
@rossmusic25
Жыл бұрын
What about all the shit Led Zeppelin stole from people?
@artvjon
Жыл бұрын
They won in copyright court, doing a separate video sometime on songs that went to court and won
@ComicPower
Жыл бұрын
It started with whole lotta love and kept going. Zeppelin is guilty AF on this.
@trickynotes9548
Жыл бұрын
@@artvjonDolly’s had a couple that she won when you go to research. 9 to 5 probably the biggest one
@ComicPower
Жыл бұрын
Olivia rodigo just rips off paramore for her whole career.
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